back to indexOptimize & Control Your Brain Chemistry to Improve Health & Performance | Huberman Lab Podcast #80

            
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                 Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast,
             
            
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                 where we discuss science and science-based tools
             
            
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                 for everyday life.
             
            
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                 I'm Andrew Huberman,
             
            
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                 and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology
             
            
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                 at Stanford School of Medicine.
             
            
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                 Today, we're going to discuss your brain chemistry
             
            
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                 and how to control and optimize your brain chemistry
             
            
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                 for all aspects of mental health,
             
            
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                 physical health, and performance.
             
            
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                 Many times before on the Huberman Lab Podcast,
             
            
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                 and frankly, every time I'm a guest on another podcast,
             
            
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                 I get questions about science and science-based tools
             
            
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                 for things like enhancing sleep, enhancing focus,
             
            
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                 enhancing creativity, improving relationships,
             
            
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                 getting over grief, and on and on,
             
            
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                 all of which are valid questions
             
            
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                 and for which there are protocols that are based in science
             
            
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                 and that work the first time and every time.
             
            
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                 However, far more important than knowing a protocol
             
            
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                 is understanding why a given protocol works.
             
            
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                 That's why I'm always hammering on mechanism
             
            
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                 and explaining the cells and circuits and chemicals,
             
            
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                 at least to some detail,
             
            
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                 so that people can understand not just what to do,
             
            
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                 but why it works and therefore how to change a protocol
             
            
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                 as their life circumstances change or as goals change.
             
            
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                 Now, today we are going to go even a layer deeper.
             
            
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                 We're going to explore the foundations of your biology
             
            
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                 in your brain and body that allow any protocol to work
             
            
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                 because as it turns out, all of the protocols out there,
             
            
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                 whether or not it's a breathing protocol or a supplement
             
            
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                 or a prescription drug or an exercise routine,
             
            
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                 they all tap into and leverage a core set
             
            
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                 of just a few biological mechanisms.
             
            
            
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                 Beneath everything you are able to do and feel,
             
            
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                 and indeed beneath every protocol that allows you
             
            
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                 to change for the better and optimize your mental health,
             
            
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                 physical health, and performance,
             
            
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                 there's just a small subset of chemicals
             
            
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                 that you're leveraging toward that change.
             
            
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                 So today we're going to talk about the four major pillars
             
            
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                 of neurochemistry that allow you to, for instance,
             
            
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                 be focused when you want to focus,
             
            
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                 that allow you to relax when you need to relax
             
            
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                 and de-stress, that allow you to optimize your sleep,
             
            
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                 that allow you to optimize your exercise routine,
             
            
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                 or to work through a pain point in relationship
             
            
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                 or in career or in your relationship to yourself.
             
            
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                 So what I can say for sure is that by the end
             
            
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                 of this episode, you will have a much richer understanding
             
            
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                 about how your brain and nervous system
             
            
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                 and indeed your entire body work,
             
            
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                 and you will have a much firmer understanding
             
            
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                 as to which protocols and tools to reach for
             
            
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                 given your particular goals in the moment,
             
            
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                 in the day, across the week, across the month,
             
            
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                 across the year, and indeed across your entire lifespan.
             
            
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                 So what we're really going for today are principles,
             
            
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                 deeper understanding of why any given protocol works,
             
            
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                 and we are also going to discuss specific protocols.
             
            
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                 Some of those protocols I've discussed
             
            
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                 on previous episodes of the Huberman Lab Podcast,
             
            
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                 but I must say many of the protocols and tools
             
            
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                 that I will discuss are brand new
             
            
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                 and based on research that I have not discussed at all,
             
            
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                 simply because the research papers came out only recently,
             
            
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                 or these are papers that I only recently unearthed.
             
            
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                 In fact, I'm going to share with you two recent studies
             
            
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                 in a moment that are exceedingly important
             
            
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                 for optimizing your sleep, and these are studies that,
             
            
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                 again, I've never discussed in any episode on sleep
             
            
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                 or on any other podcast.
             
            
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                 So by the end of today's episode,
             
            
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                 you're going to have far more knowledge
             
            
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                 about your biology and psychology
             
            
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                 than you did at the start,
             
            
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                 and you'll be armed with many more tools,
             
            
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                 and most importantly, principles so that you can navigate
             
            
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                 not just the tools presented on this podcast,
             
            
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                 but in the vast landscape of tools that are out there
             
            
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                 for mental health, physical health, and performance.
             
            
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                 Every so often, I come across a study or set of studies
             
            
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                 that I get so excited about
             
            
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                 that I start telling everybody in my immediate life,
             
            
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                 and I insist on also sharing it with you,
             
            
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                 the listeners of this podcast,
             
            
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                 because I find the information
             
            
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                 to be so incredibly interesting and actionable.
             
            
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                 The two studies that I'm going to discuss
             
            
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                 both relate to sleep and sleep states
             
            
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                 and how to access better sleep.
             
            
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                 The first one was published in the journal Cell Reports,
             
            
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                 Cell Press Journal, excellent journal.
             
            
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                 The title of this paper is
             
            
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                 Rapid and Reversible Control of Human Metabolism
             
            
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                 by Individual Sleep States.
             
            
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                 We will provide a link to the study in the show captions.
             
            
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                 The first author is Nora Nowak, N-O-W-A-K.
             
            
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                 And basically what they did is they measured
             
            
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                 the different forms of metabolism that occur
             
            
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                 while humans sleep.
             
            
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                 As far as I know, this is one of the first studies
             
            
            
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                 There are many studies of metabolism.
             
            
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                 There are many studies of sleep.
             
            
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                 This study focused on how different states of sleep,
             
            
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                 such as rapid eye movement sleep,
             
            
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                 which is associated with dreaming
             
            
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                 and high emotional content dreams versus slow wave sleep,
             
            
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                 which tends to be more focused on physical repair
             
            
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                 of the body, more mundane dreams,
             
            
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                 how those different states of mind during sleep
             
            
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                 relate to different aspects of metabolism.
             
            
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                 And what they found was absolutely fascinating.
             
            
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                 First of all, they found that sleep states regulate
             
            
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                 more than 50%, half of all the metabolite features
             
            
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                 detected in human breath.
             
            
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                 What does that mean?
             
            
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                 Well, it turns out that you can figure out
             
            
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                 what humans are metabolizing in particular,
             
            
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                 more lipids or more carbohydrate,
             
            
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                 whether or not they're relying more on glucose metabolism
             
            
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                 based on the contents of their breath.
             
            
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                 This is true during waking and during sleep.
             
            
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                 And this is what allowed them to do
             
            
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                 these incredible measurements
             
            
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                 of what's being metabolized during sleep.
             
            
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                 They measured close to 2,000 metabolites in breath
             
            
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                 every 10 seconds across the entire night's sleep.
             
            
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                 And what they found was that there are major pathways
             
            
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                 related to lipid metabolism, fat metabolism,
             
            
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                 or to carbohydrate metabolism or other forms of metabolism
             
            
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                 that are up or down regulated as human beings transition
             
            
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                 between slow wave sleep, rapid eye movement sleep,
             
            
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                 and waking, and you might say waking.
             
            
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                 Well, yes, they also looked as people fell asleep
             
            
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                 and as they emerged from sleep, and believe it or not,
             
            
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                 every so often during sleep, you wake up,
             
            
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                 you didn't know this,
             
            
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                 but you wake up in the middle of the night,
             
            
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                 you look around and you go back to sleep.
             
            
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                 You're not aware of it
             
            
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                 because you're still in a rather sleep-like state,
             
            
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                 although you are awake.
             
            
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                 What they found was that sleep
             
            
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                 and the various states of sleep
             
            
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                 regulated individual metabolic pathways.
             
            
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                 They found, for instance,
             
            
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                 that the switch from sleep to wakefulness
             
            
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                 reduces fatty acid oxidation.
             
            
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                 So that means while you're asleep,
             
            
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                 you're oxidating more fatty acids.
             
            
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                 And as you wake up, that becomes less the case.
             
            
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                 And there's a switch in slow wave sleep
             
            
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                 that increases fatty acid oxidation.
             
            
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                 And there's this transition from rapid eye movement sleep
             
            
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                 to other aspects of sleep
             
            
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                 that brings about things like the so-called TCA cycle.
             
            
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                 Some of you familiar with metabolism
             
            
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                 will be familiar with the TCA cycle,
             
            
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                 the so-called tricarbolic acid cycle,
             
            
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                 intermediates, that's fancy nerd speak
             
            
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                 for specific aspects of metabolism being regulated
             
            
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                 during this rapid eye movement sleep transition.
             
            
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                 What does all this mean?
             
            
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                 And how is this actionable?
             
            
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                 Well, on many episodes of the Huberman Lab Podcast,
             
            
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                 such as the master sleep episode
             
            
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                 and the episode that we're going into in further depth today,
             
            
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                 we're going to talk about sleep and how to optimize sleep.
             
            
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                 It's been thought of, but not really tamped down,
             
            
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                 that quality and depth of sleep and duration of sleep
             
            
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                 is important for metabolism during the daytime.
             
            
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                 And indeed, that's the case.
             
            
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                 If people are sleep deprived or they're not sleeping enough,
             
            
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                 things like glucose metabolism, et cetera,
             
            
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                 get really disrupted during the daytime.
             
            
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                 But what this current study shows
             
            
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                 is that the metabolism that you experience during sleep,
             
            
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                 or to be more specific,
             
            
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                 the range of different types of metabolism
             
            
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                 that you experience during sleep may serve to tune up
             
            
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                 or to ensure that the specific aspects of metabolism
             
            
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                 that you require during wakefulness are working properly.
             
            
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                 In addition to that,
             
            
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                 this study clearly shows that getting enough sleep
             
            
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                 allows you to transition
             
            
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                 through all the various forms of metabolism
             
            
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                 and use all those different forms of metabolites
             
            
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                 during sleep in a way that's immensely beneficial
             
            
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                 for the systems of your brain and body.
             
            
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                 So the take-home message here is that as the authors state,
             
            
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                 sleep and experiencing the different states of sleep,
             
            
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                 slow wave sleep early in the night predominantly
             
            
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                 plus rapid eye movement sleep toward the end of the night
             
            
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                 is extremely important for optimizing metabolic circuits
             
            
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                 for human performance and health.
             
            
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                 In other words, by not getting sufficient duration sleep,
             
            
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                 you're not allowing your body and brain to transition
             
            
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                 through all the different aspects of fuel utilization,
             
            
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                 and you're not teaching your brain and body
             
            
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                 how to use similar types of fuels during wakefulness.
             
            
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                 So again, all of this points to the fact
             
            
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                 that we need to be getting sufficient quality
             
            
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                 and duration of sleep.
             
            
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                 So if you're sleep deprived even by an hour or so,
             
            
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                 you're going to get far less rapid eye movement sleep
             
            
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                 because rapid eye movement sleep
             
            
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                 is what occurs toward the end of a sleep night.
             
            
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                 During the early part of the night,
             
            
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                 far more slow wave sleep.
             
            
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                 In getting less rapid eye movement sleep,
             
            
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                 we know it makes you more emotionally labile,
             
            
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                 but now we know it's also going to alter certain forms
             
            
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                 of glucose metabolism during the night
             
            
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                 and during wakefulness.
             
            
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                 So that all underscores the need to get sleep.
             
            
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                 But then the question is how to get enough sleep
             
            
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                 and how to make sure you get
             
            
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                 into all these different sleep states.
             
            
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                 And this is particularly important
             
            
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                 for you so-called night owls.
             
            
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                 There's a lot of controversy out there
             
            
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                 as to whether or not different so-called chronotypes exist.
             
            
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                 That is people who just naturally
             
            
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                 or genetically want to be an early bird,
             
            
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                 wake up early and go to bed early.
             
            
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                 So these people that wake up at 4 a.m.
             
            
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                 and would be most comfortable going to bed
             
            
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                 by 7 or 8 p.m. or 9 p.m.
             
            
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                 Then there are so-called night owls,
             
            
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                 people that would feel best or tend to feel best
             
            
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                 when they go to sleep at 1 a.m., 2 a.m., even 3 a.m.
             
            
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                 and like to wake up later, 8, 9, 10,
             
            
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                 or even 11 a.m. or noon.
             
            
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                 And then of course, most people go to sleep somewhere
             
            
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                 between 10 p.m. and midnight
             
            
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                 and wake up somewhere between 5 a.m. and 7 a.m.
             
            
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                 Or I suppose more typically 6 a.m. and 8 a.m.
             
            
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                 Now, whether or not real chronotypes exist
             
            
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                 or whether or not people simply select schedules
             
            
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                 for sleep and wakefulness that they like
             
            
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                 because of their social schedules
             
            
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                 or the activities they enjoy.
             
            
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                 For instance, some people like to really go out.
             
            
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                 They like to go out dancing or hear music
             
            
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                 or spend time in venues that are only open late at night
             
            
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                 and don't even open until noon or after.
             
            
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                 Other people like myself rarely go out at night,
             
            
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                 but I like to get up early, I like to exercise,
             
            
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                 I like to see the sunrise, et cetera.
             
            
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                 So I don't know if I'm a morning person
             
            
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                 or an evening person.
             
            
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                 I just know the things I enjoy tend to happen
             
            
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                 in the early part of the day
             
            
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                 and the things that I don't enjoy quite as much
             
            
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                 tend to happen late at night.
             
            
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                 Regardless of whether or not
             
            
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                 there are real genetic propensities to be a night owl
             
            
            
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                 or a sort of typical person right there in the middle,
             
            
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                 it's very important that people have some control
             
            
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                 over their sleep schedule.
             
            
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                 And even more important,
             
            
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                 that people are able to get sufficient amount of REM sleep
             
            
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                 and slow wave sleep for many reasons,
             
            
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                 but including the reasons I discussed
             
            
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                 in the previous study related to metabolism.
             
            
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                 I'm very excited therefore about a study
             
            
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                 that came out in sleep medicine.
             
            
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                 This was a few years ago, but somehow I missed this one.
             
            
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                 It was published in 2019.
             
            
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                 And the title of this article
             
            
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                 is resetting the late timing of night owls
             
            
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                 has a positive impact on mental health,
             
            
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                 physical health and performance.
             
            
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                 This is a study done in humans,
             
            
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                 focusing specifically on people
             
            
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                 that like to stay up late and sleep in,
             
            
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                 but who desire to be able to get up and feel alert
             
            
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                 in order to go to work or study.
             
            
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                 And they want to go to sleep a bit earlier.
             
            
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                 And so there are a lot of questions embedded in this study,
             
            
            
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                 whether or not people can actually shift their schedule
             
            
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                 by a few hours or more.
             
            
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                 Some people out there contend that if you're a night owl,
             
            
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                 that's just going to be impossible
             
            
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                 or very, very challenging to do.
             
            
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                 Turns out it's not impossible
             
            
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                 and it's not even that challenging to do
             
            
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                 provided you do the right things.
             
            
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                 Just a brief overview of the study,
             
            
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                 and then I'll give you the key takeaways.
             
            
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                 It was a randomized control trial.
             
            
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                 It involved a number of different people,
             
            
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                 both male and female.
             
            
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                 And what they did was they use non-pharmacological,
             
            
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                 practical interventions in a real world setting.
             
            
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                 Here I'm paraphrasing.
             
            
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                 They use targeted light exposure.
             
            
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                 They used consistent sleep wake times.
             
            
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                 They used fixed meal times, caffeine intake, and exercise.
             
            
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                 And this is one of the reasons I love this study so much
             
            
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                 because I've done episodes where I've talked about
             
            
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                 temperature, exercise, feeding,
             
            
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                 and most importantly, light exposure as a way
             
            
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                 to control and shift your sleep wake cycles,
             
            
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                 your so-called circadian timing and entrainment.
             
            
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                 What did they find?
             
            
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                 Well, they found, quote,
             
            
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                 significant improvements in terms of mood,
             
            
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                 so far less depression and stress,
             
            
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                 subjectively measured,
             
            
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                 as well as improved cognitive performance
             
            
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                 that was objectively measured,
             
            
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                 so improved reaction times,
             
            
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                 improved physical grip strength,
             
            
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                 which is actually a measure not just of strength per se,
             
            
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                 but also nervous system function,
             
            
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                 and a number of things that people could do
             
            
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                 in order to optimize their morning hours
             
            
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                 even though they were night owls previously.
             
            
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                 What do they have people do?
             
            
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                 Well, I'm just going to list this off
             
            
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                 in sort of a rapid fire succession.
             
            
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                 Then we'll provide a link to the study
             
            
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                 if you want to learn more.
             
            
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                 First of all, they told participants
             
            
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                 to try and wake up two to three hours
             
            
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                 before their typical wake up time,
             
            
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                 two to three hours.
             
            
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                 That seems brutal to me and probably seems brutal to you
             
            
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                 if you're somebody who typically wakes up at 10 a.m.
             
            
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                 to try and get up at eight or even seven a.m. consistently.
             
            
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                 But they were also asked to maximize
             
            
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                 at outdoor light exposure during the mornings
             
            
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                 for reasons that if you've listened to this podcast before,
             
            
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                 if you've heard me talk about before,
             
            
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                 that I'm constantly talking about,
             
            
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                 I'll probably go into the grave shouting,
             
            
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                 please get as much light exposure
             
            
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                 from sunlight early in the day as possible
             
            
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                 because it sets in motion a huge number of things
             
            
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                 that are beneficial for your mental health
             
            
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                 and physical health, including dopamine production,
             
            
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                 timing melatonin production correctly,
             
            
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                 reducing cortisol peaks late in the day, et cetera, et cetera.
             
            
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                 So they asked them to get a lot of outdoor light exposure.
             
            
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                 They didn't give them a specific amount
             
            
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                 where they said maximize outdoor light exposure
             
            
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                 during the mornings, the time before noon.
             
            
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                 And again, they had them waking up two to three hours
             
            
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                 before their habitual wake up time.
             
            
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                 They were also told, and this is very important
             
            
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                 if you're going to shift your schedule earlier,
             
            
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                 to try and keep sleep wake times fixed
             
            
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                 between their workdays and their weekends.
             
            
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                 So not sleeping in on the weekends
             
            
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                 or not having any sleep in days,
             
            
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                 regardless of how well they slept the night before.
             
            
            
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                 Within 15 to 30 minutes of their predesignated time.
             
            
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                 So if they were waking up at seven o'clock one day,
             
            
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                 they set their alarm and they made sure they got out of bed
             
            
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                 at seven o'clock every day, plus or minus 30 minutes,
             
            
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                 but never later than 7.30, never earlier than 6.30.
             
            
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                 Participants were also asked to try and go to sleep
             
            
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                 two to three hours before their habitual bedtime.
             
            
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                 So again, these are people that want to stay up late,
             
            
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                 like 11 p.m. perhaps, but even as late as 1 a.m. or 2 a.m.
             
            
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                 And now they are asked to go to sleep two to three hours
             
            
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                 before the habitual bedtime
             
            
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                 and to wake up two to three hours earlier,
             
            
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                 as I mentioned earlier.
             
            
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                 They were also told, and I love this
             
            
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                 because it fits with many of the things we've talked about
             
            
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                 on this podcast before,
             
            
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                 to try and limit light exposure during the evenings.
             
            
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                 Dim the lights or limit altogether artificial lights.
             
            
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                 Lot of reasons for that.
             
            
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                 I covered that in the master sleep episode.
             
            
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                 I covered that in the optimize health using light episode.
             
            
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                 You can find those at hubermanlab.com.
             
            
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                 They're asking them to do that here.
             
            
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                 And they asked participants to keep a regular schedule
             
            
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                 for their daily meals, not eating on the hour consistently,
             
            
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                 you know, at 9 a.m., noon, 3 p.m. exactly,
             
            
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                 but within, again, about 15 to 30 minutes,
             
            
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                 they're always eating at the same times.
             
            
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                 That was also important.
             
            
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                 And again, that's because we have these so-called
             
            
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                 food-entrained circadian clocks.
             
            
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                 When you eat tells your body when to be alert
             
            
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                 and when you're not eating, when to be asleep.
             
            
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                 And they were told to not drink any caffeine
             
            
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                 after 3 p.m. in the afternoon,
             
            
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                 another theme that we've talked about on this podcast.
             
            
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                 They were also told not to take naps after 4 p.m.
             
            
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                 Naps are an interesting feature of the sleep-wake cycle.
             
            
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                 To be very brief about this and to pull from the episode
             
            
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                 that I did with world sleep expert
             
            
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                 from University of California, Berkeley, Matt Walker,
             
            
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                 naps are great for many people,
             
            
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                 but don't nap if it interferes with your nighttime sleep.
             
            
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                 And in this study, they told them don't nap after 4 p.m.
             
            
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                 And if you are a napper, don't nap for more than 90 minutes.
             
            
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                 10 minute naps are fine, 20 minute naps are fine,
             
            
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                 zero minute naps are fine,
             
            
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                 but don't nap for more than 90 minutes
             
            
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                 and don't nap after 4 p.m.
             
            
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                 And to exercise during the morning.
             
            
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                 Now this one can be a bit controversial
             
            
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                 because I know a lot of the PTs out there
             
            
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                 and a lot of the online, you know,
             
            
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                 gym rats and people who, and runners too for that matter,
             
            
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                 will say, well, according to body temperature and research,
             
            
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                 it's best to exercise in the afternoon.
             
            
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                 Look, it's better to exercise sometime as opposed to no time
             
            
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                 but if you're focused on how to shift your schedule earlier,
             
            
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                 meaning get up early and go to sleep earlier,
             
            
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                 this study had people exercise in the early part of the day,
             
            
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                 certainly before 2 p.m. and ideally before noon.
             
            
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                 So again, this is a really important study
             
            
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                 because it combines a lot of different variables
             
            
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                 to arrive at this very impressive shift
             
            
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                 where people can get up two to three hours earlier
             
            
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                 and then pretty consistently and reflexively
             
            
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                 start going to bed two to three hours earlier,
             
            
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                 feeling more alert during the day.
             
            
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                 Again, improvements in cognitive performance,
             
            
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                 mood and physical performance, grip strength, et cetera.
             
            
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                 Very few studies are able to or willing to tackle
             
            
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                 so many variables and combine them in one study.
             
            
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                 This paper I think does a marvelous job of doing this
             
            
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                 and is incorporating things that individually
             
            
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                 each have some support for them in animal studies
             
            
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                 and previous human studies.
             
            
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                 But as far as I know, this is one of the few studies
             
            
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                 that really combines all these different features
             
            
            
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                 Eating times, keeping those consistent,
             
            
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                 getting maximal sunlight exposure earlier in the day,
             
            
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                 getting up at a consistent time,
             
            
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                 going to sleep at a consistent time and on and on.
             
            
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                 It's a really marvelous study for that reason.
             
            
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                 And I think for any of you that are night owls
             
            
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                 and any of you that want to reinforce your early waking
             
            
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                 and early to bedtimes, and I think for most all of you
             
            
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                 who fall into that general middle category
             
            
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                 of tend to go to sleep somewhere between 10 p.m.
             
            
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                 and midnight, because that's most people
             
            
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                 and tend to wake up sometime between 6 a.m. and 8 a.m.,
             
            
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                 well, maybe you want to become more of an early riser
             
            
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                 or maybe you're going to travel
             
            
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                 or the seasons are changing and you want to shift your time
             
            
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                 or you have a new job, et cetera,
             
            
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                 or something that's actually very common
             
            
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                 in terms of relationship struggle.
             
            
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                 You want to match your wake sleep times
             
            
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                 or maybe you want to offset your wake sleep times
             
            
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                 from a significant other.
             
            
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                 These sorts of approaches that I described here
             
            
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                 and that are supported by the data in this paper
             
            
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                 are absolutely powerful and science supported.
             
            
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                 And I'm certain that if you were to apply them
             
            
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                 that you would see essentially the same effects
             
            
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                 that were observed here.
             
            
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                 Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize
             
            
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                 that this podcast is separate from my teaching
             
            
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                 and research roles at Stanford.
             
            
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                 It is, however, part of my desire and effort
             
            
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                 to bring zero cost to consumer information about science
             
            
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                 and science-related tools to the general public.
             
            
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                 In keeping with that theme,
             
            
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                 I'd like to thank the sponsors of today's podcast.
             
            
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                 that is trillions of little micro-bacteria
             
            
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                 that are good for us, impact our immune system,
             
            
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                 our hormones, and the so-called gut-brain axis,
             
            
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                 the connections between our gut and our brain
             
            
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                 that go in both directions, gut to brain and brain to gut,
             
            
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                 and the reason I'm not a fan of the word nootropics
             
            
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                 Let's talk about how to optimize
             
            
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                 and indeed how to control your brain chemistry
             
            
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                 for sake of health and performance.
             
            
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                 Now, in order to do that,
             
            
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                 we all need to be on the same page about some basic facts.
             
            
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                 Some of those basic facts involve learning
             
            
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                 some basic biology.
             
            
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                 And I promise that even if you don't have a biology
             
            
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                 or chemistry background,
             
            
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                 everything I'm about to say
             
            
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                 should be accessible and clear to you.
             
            
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                 The important thing to know is that your brain
             
            
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                 and your spinal cord
             
            
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                 and the rest of your so-called nervous system
             
            
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                 control all the organs of your body
             
            
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                 and that all the organs of your body feed back,
             
            
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                 meaning they communicate through chemicals
             
            
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                 and other means to your nervous system.
             
            
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                 Now, your nervous system plays a particularly important role
             
            
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                 in generating everything from sleep to wakefulness,
             
            
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                 creativity, stress, calm, et cetera,
             
            
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                 by way of a particular type of cell-cell interaction.
             
            
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                 And that's called synaptic communication.
             
            
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                 What is synaptic communication?
             
            
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                 Well, in order to understand that,
             
            
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                 let's dial back a little bit further
             
            
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                 and try and understand for a moment
             
            
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                 what makes up your nervous system.
             
            
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                 In its simplest form, your nervous system
             
            
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                 is made of nerve cells that we call neurons.
             
            
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                 Neurons communicate with one another through chemicals.
             
            
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                 They release certain chemicals that make other neurons
             
            
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                 more or less likely to be electrically active.
             
            
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                 What do we mean by electrically active?
             
            
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                 We mean, as it sounds,
             
            
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                 electricity passing down through cells
             
            
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                 and then literally causing electricity in other cells.
             
            
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                 The simplest way to think about this
             
            
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                 is maybe when you were a kid or maybe even still now,
             
            
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                 you would wear socks and you'd shuffle along the floor
             
            
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                 to generate some static electricity
             
            
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                 and then you'd touch someone
             
            
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                 and you'd shock them with your finger.
             
            
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                 I'm a younger brother,
             
            
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                 so I'd occasionally do that to my sister.
             
            
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                 I had friends, we would do that to one another.
             
            
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                 I know it's kind of silly and childish,
             
            
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                 yet it illustrates the principle
             
            
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                 that we can generate electricity
             
            
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                 and pass electricity to other beings
             
            
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                 or in the case of neurons, from one neuron to the next.
             
            
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                 The way neurons do that is that in between the neurons,
             
            
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                 they're little spaces.
             
            
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                 Those little spaces are called synapses
             
            
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                 and neurons literally vomit.
             
            
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                 Well, they don't literally vomit,
             
            
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                 but they release little packets
             
            
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                 of so-called transmitter chemical
             
            
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                 into that space we call a synapse.
             
            
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                 It travels across the synapse.
             
            
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                 It attaches to the cell on the other side, the other neuron.
             
            
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                 And then depending on what that chemical is,
             
            
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                 it either makes that next neuron more electrically active
             
            
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                 or less electrically active, so-called excitation.
             
            
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                 It either excites the next neuron
             
            
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                 to be electrically active also,
             
            
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                 or it inhibits, it prevents the next neuron
             
            
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                 from being electrically active.
             
            
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                 So again, very simply, we have nerve cells
             
            
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                 that communicate with one another
             
            
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                 through electricity and chemicals
             
            
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                 that inspire that electricity.
             
            
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                 And the little gaps between neurons are called synapses.
             
            
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                 If you can understand that,
             
            
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                 I'm certain you can make it through the rest of the episode
             
            
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                 and that you will get all the depth
             
            
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                 and important detail that you need to know.
             
            
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                 But I want to go just a little bit further
             
            
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                 and explain that neurons don't just talk one-to-one.
             
            
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                 There are trillions of neurons in your nervous system
             
            
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                 that allow you to be happy, to be in love, to be sad,
             
            
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                 to be in grief, to remember things and so on.
             
            
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                 And what you do at any moment,
             
            
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                 what you feel and what you think,
             
            
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                 relates to which so-called neural circuits are active.
             
            
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                 So a lot of times we think about brain areas
             
            
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                 and we've all seen these pictures of the brain
             
            
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                 where someone was in a FMRI scanner
             
            
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                 or they were in a brain scanner of some sort
             
            
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                 and they saw a picture of something
             
            
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                 and a certain area of the brain lights up as it's called.
             
            
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                 That lighting up of the brain really reflects the activity
             
            
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                 of hundreds, if not thousands,
             
            
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                 maybe even millions of neurons in that region.
             
            
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                 Those images of brain areas lighting up
             
            
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                 and indeed talking about brain areas lighting up
             
            
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                 can be a little bit or a lot misleading
             
            
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                 because in fact, no single brain area
             
            
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                 controls any one single perception
             
            
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                 or behavior or feeling state.
             
            
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                 Rather, we have so-called neural circuits,
             
            
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                 chains of neurons, chains of specific neurons, that is,
             
            
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                 that create different states of mind
             
            
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                 that lead to specific behaviors,
             
            
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                 that lead to specific emotional states.
             
            
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                 And those neural circuits are made up
             
            
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                 of lots of different brain areas
             
            
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                 that light up in particular sequences.
             
            
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                 And when I say light up, excuse me,
             
            
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                 what I mean is that particular brain areas
             
            
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                 either excite or prevent the excitation,
             
            
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                 that is, they inhibit other brain areas
             
            
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                 in a particular sequence.
             
            
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                 Much like keys on a piano played in a particular sequence
             
            
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                 makes up a particular song,
             
            
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                 particular brain areas activated or made silent
             
            
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                 in a particular sequence leads to a particular behavior,
             
            
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                 like getting up out of a chair
             
            
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                 or a particular feeling state,
             
            
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                 like being particularly happy one day when you wake up
             
            
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                 or particularly depressed,
             
            
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                 whether or not that depression is caused by a life event
             
            
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                 or whether or not it arises spontaneously.
             
            
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                 So we have neurons, we have synapses,
             
            
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                 and we have neural circuits.
             
            
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                 And vitally important is the fact
             
            
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                 that which neural circuits are active
             
            
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                 and which neural circuits are likely to be less active
             
            
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                 at any given moment
             
            
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                 depends on two major categories of chemicals.
             
            
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                 It depends on hormones
             
            
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                 and it depends on so-called neuromodulators.
             
            
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                 Now, we're mainly going to focus on neuromodulators today
             
            
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                 because those are the things
             
            
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                 that if you can learn to control them,
             
            
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                 and indeed there are tools to control them,
             
            
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                 then you can control which neural circuits
             
            
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                 are more likely or less likely to be active in you
             
            
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                 at any given moment.
             
            
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                 And in doing so, you can control whether or not
             
            
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                 you are going to be alert and focused or deeply asleep.
             
            
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                 You can control whether or not
             
            
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                 you are going to be in a creative state
             
            
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                 or whether or not you're going to be in a state of mind,
             
            
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                 more fit, more capable that is of doing focused work
             
            
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                 or math or more so-called linear types of work
             
            
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                 where there's a correct answer.
             
            
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                 There's a specific thing to follow
             
            
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                 and you're simply going to plug and chug as it were
             
            
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                 through a particular set of steps
             
            
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                 in order to accomplish something.
             
            
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                 Or for instance, whether or not
             
            
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                 you're going to be in a more relaxed and creative state
             
            
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                 where you're thinking about new ideas
             
            
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                 or new ideas are just seem to be
             
            
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                 spontaneously coming to mind.
             
            
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                 All of that can be controlled to a considerable extent
             
            
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                 by leveraging these so-called neuromodulators.
             
            
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                 What are neuromodulators?
             
            
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                 Neuromodulators are particular chemicals
             
            
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                 that make it likely that certain neural circuits
             
            
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                 will be active and not others.
             
            
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                 And the four neuromodulators
             
            
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                 that we're going to talk about today
             
            
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                 that are of the utmost importance for your goals
             
            
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                 are dopamine, epinephrine, also called adrenaline,
             
            
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                 serotonin, and acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 That's dopamine, epinephrine, serotonin, and acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 Today, I'm going to teach you
             
            
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                 how each of those different categories
             
            
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                 of neuromodulators work and the things that you can do
             
            
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                 to control those neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 that is increase them or decrease them
             
            
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                 through behavioral tools and supplementation
             
            
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                 in ways that allow you to access the brain and body states
             
            
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                 that you want at the times that you want.
             
            
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                 Just very quickly,
             
            
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                 I want to talk about how neuromodulators are able to work
             
            
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                 regardless of whether or not it's dopamine or serotonin
             
            
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                 or epinephrine, et cetera.
             
            
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                 There are many features of how neuromodulators work,
             
            
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                 but for sake of today's discussion,
             
            
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                 we only need to focus on two of those features.
             
            
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                 And those are fast acting features
             
            
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                 and longer slower features
             
            
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                 or what we call baseline features.
             
            
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                 What am I talking about when I say faster or baseline?
             
            
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                 Well, consider that at any given moment,
             
            
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                 whether or not you're asleep or awake,
             
            
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                 whether or not it's morning or afternoon or night,
             
            
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                 you have some amount of dopamine being released
             
            
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                 in your brain and body, some amount of serotonin,
             
            
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                 some amount of epinephrine,
             
            
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                 and some amount of acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 It is rarely, if ever the case,
             
            
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                 that you have zero dopamine or zero serotonin.
             
            
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                 So often we hear about someone being dopamine depleted,
             
            
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                 or these days you hear a lot about that anyways,
             
            
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                 or you'll hear that people's serotonin is bottomed out.
             
            
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                 In reality, none of these neuromodulators
             
            
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                 ever disappear completely,
             
            
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                 but they tend to be present at different levels
             
            
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                 or different relative levels.
             
            
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                 Another important thing to point out
             
            
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                 is that they don't work alone.
             
            
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                 In fact, as you'll soon learn,
             
            
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                 dopamine and epinephrine are close cousins
             
            
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                 that collaborate in terms of creating states
             
            
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                 of focus and motivation, for instance,
             
            
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                 or in creating states of energy
             
            
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                 and the pursuit of particular goals.
             
            
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                 When I say they're close cousins,
             
            
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                 what I mean is that they tend to impact
             
            
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                 some of the same neural circuits,
             
            
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                 and believe it or not,
             
            
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                 dopamine and epinephrine are chemically related too.
             
            
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                 I'll just tell you right now that epinephrine
             
            
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                 is actually derived from dopamine chemically.
             
            
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                 Epinephrine, that is adrenaline,
             
            
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                 is made from the molecule dopamine.
             
            
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                 Now, dopamine and serotonin can also work together
             
            
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                 to impact certain circuits in the brain,
             
            
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                 but in large part, they operate on separate circuits.
             
            
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                 And acetylcholine, which you'll soon learn
             
            
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                 is involved in states of focus and can actually open up.
             
            
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                 It can literally create states in the mind
             
            
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                 in which your brain is more plastic
             
            
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                 and able to change and learn more quickly.
             
            
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                 Well, acetylcholine can do that on its own,
             
            
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                 but rarely does it do it on its own.
             
            
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                 More typically, it gets assistance
             
            
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                 from some of the other neuromodulators.
             
            
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                 Now, that might seem like it complicates the picture,
             
            
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                 but it actually makes the picture far simpler
             
            
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                 because what we can say for sure
             
            
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                 is that the fast actions of dopamine,
             
            
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                 or the fast actions of epinephrine,
             
            
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                 serotonin, or acetylcholine are actions that occur
             
            
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                 on the order of seconds or minutes
             
            
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                 or up to about an hour or so.
             
            
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                 Whereas the slower actions of those neuromodulators
             
            
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                 tend to occur on the order of hours, days, or even weeks.
             
            
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                 Now, perhaps surprisingly, I'd like to focus
             
            
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                 on the slow actions of the neuromodulators first,
             
            
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                 because those slow actions of the neuromodulators
             
            
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                 are happening in you and in me and in everyone right now.
             
            
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                 And they set the backdrop, the context,
             
            
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                 in which the various tools to manipulate dopamine,
             
            
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                 epinephrine, serotonin, or acetylcholine will work.
             
            
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                 What do I mean by the context or the backdrop
             
            
            
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                 Well, it's fair to say that most people
             
            
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                 are awake during the daytime and asleep at night.
             
            
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                 I do realize that there are people
             
            
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                 who are going to be doing shift work
             
            
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                 or they're raising young children,
             
            
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                 or that might have a sick person at home
             
            
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                 that they're tending to, et cetera,
             
            
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                 or even have insomnia, they're tending to them.
             
            
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                 So schedules of sleep and wakefulness will vary,
             
            
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                 but in general, everybody,
             
            
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                 regardless of whether or not you're nocturnal
             
            
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                 or you're so-called diurnal, you're awake during the day,
             
            
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                 pretty much everybody follows a schedule
             
            
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                 in which from zero to nine hours after waking,
             
            
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                 that is from the time you wake up
             
            
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                 until about nine hours later,
             
            
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                 the neuromodulators dopamine and epinephrine
             
            
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                 tend to be at their highest levels
             
            
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                 that they will be at any point in the 24 hour period,
             
            
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                 in any period of the day.
             
            
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                 So we can call this zero to nine hour period
             
            
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                 phase one of the day, just for simplicity.
             
            
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                 And I've referred to this before in a previous episode,
             
            
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                 but not in this exact context.
             
            
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                 From nine to about 16 hours is what we will call phase two.
             
            
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                 And that's when dopamine and epinephrine levels
             
            
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                 tend to subside a bit compared to the earlier phase one
             
            
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                 part of the day, and serotonin levels start to increase.
             
            
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                 And then phase three of the 24 hour cycle,
             
            
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                 which is from about, and again,
             
            
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                 about the zero approximates,
             
            
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                 from about 17 hours after waking
             
            
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                 until about 24 hours after waking
             
            
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                 is phase three of the day.
             
            
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                 And during that time, there is chaos
             
            
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                 in terms of which neuromodulators
             
            
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                 are most present in the brain.
             
            
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                 And why chaos, what I mean is that during sleep,
             
            
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                 you have incredible peaks in acetylcholine
             
            
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                 and drops in acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 You have incredible peaks in dopamine
             
            
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                 and drops in dopamine.
             
            
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                 You have incredible peaks in serotonin
             
            
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                 and drops in serotonin.
             
            
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                 Most often, you are not going to see much,
             
            
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                 if any, release of epinephrine, adrenaline.
             
            
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                 And that's because epinephrine, also called adrenaline,
             
            
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                 tends to wake us up and put us into action mode behaviors.
             
            
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                 And that's simply not happening during sleep.
             
            
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                 But for the other three neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 across the night, it's sort of chaos.
             
            
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                 You've got peaks and drops and peaks and drops
             
            
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                 in different combinations
             
            
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                 than you would ever see in wakefulness.
             
            
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                 And this plays important roles in dreaming,
             
            
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                 important roles in some of the reparative functions of sleep.
             
            
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                 The point is that during that phase three,
             
            
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                 the levels of neuromodulators are all over the place,
             
            
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                 but it's not random, right?
             
            
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                 I say it's chaos, but it's organized
             
            
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                 according to the specific reparative goals of sleep,
             
            
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                 the specific metabolic roles of sleep, et cetera.
             
            
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                 We're not going to focus too much on phase three today,
             
            
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                 because phase three of the 24 hour cycle,
             
            
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                 that 17 to 24 hour period,
             
            
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                 is one in which you ought to be deeply asleep,
             
            
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                 whether or not you're nocturnal or diurnal, right?
             
            
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                 17 hours after waking, you ought to be asleep.
             
            
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                 And there are a lot of episodes of this podcast,
             
            
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                 and indeed today I started talking about
             
            
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                 two particular studies related to sleep.
             
            
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                 There are a lot of tools to enhance sleep, et cetera.
             
            
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                 And of course, there are things that you can do
             
            
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                 in the late portion of phase two of the day
             
            
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                 in order to enhance your transition time
             
            
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                 into and depth of sleep.
             
            
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                 But you can't really do much during sleep, right?
             
            
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                 You're not taking supplements,
             
            
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                 you're not doing breathing practices.
             
            
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                 There are things to fall back asleep,
             
            
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                 but you're not really doing much during sleep.
             
            
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                 So we're mainly going to focus
             
            
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                 on what we're calling phase one and phase two.
             
            
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                 Phase one being this dopamine epinephrine dominated
             
            
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                 phase of our day, and phase two being this more serotonergic
             
            
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                 or serotonin dominated portion of the day.
             
            
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                 And then you might say, well, what about acetylcholine?
             
            
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                 Forgot about acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 Well, we didn't forget about acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 Acetylcholine is under control more in terms
             
            
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                 of what we happen to be doing at any given moment,
             
            
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                 whether or not we're focusing or not focusing,
             
            
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                 whether or not we're learning or not learning.
             
            
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                 And here I'm referring to acetylcholine specifically
             
            
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                 in the context of the brain and thinking,
             
            
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                 because as some of you are probably shouting out there,
             
            
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                 right, if you're exercise physiologists
             
            
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                 or you know anything about how the brain controls movement,
             
            
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                 acetylcholine is used at the nerve to muscle synapse, right?
             
            
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                 So neurons don't just control other neurons electrically.
             
            
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                 The way you're able to move in fact is
             
            
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                 because neurons are controlling the electric activity
             
            
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                 of muscles, literally the contraction of muscle fibers,
             
            
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                 and that control is exerted
             
            
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                 through the release of acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 So acetylcholine is working at muscles as well,
             
            
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                 but we're not focused on that today.
             
            
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                 We're focused on what we can do during phase one of the day
             
            
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                 and what we can do during phase two of the day
             
            
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                 to control the specific neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 dopamine, epinephrine, serotonin, and acetylcholine
             
            
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                 toward particular end goals.
             
            
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                 And as I've been harping on for the last five
             
            
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                 or 10 minutes or so, it is important to understand
             
            
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                 that in the early phase one part of the day,
             
            
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                 again, zero to nine hours,
             
            
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                 dopamine and epinephrine already dominate
             
            
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                 the neuromodulator landscape.
             
            
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                 That is, they are already elevated
             
            
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                 and then they will taper off in phase two.
             
            
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                 Whereas in phase two of the day,
             
            
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                 serotonin tends to dominate
             
            
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                 more than dopamine and epinephrine.
             
            
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                 And so if you think about that,
             
            
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                 what it means is that if your goal is to increase serotonin
             
            
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                 in order to get some particular effect
             
            
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                 on your mental performance or physical performance or health,
             
            
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                 or if your goal is to increase your dopamine
             
            
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                 or epinephrine to get some particular effect
             
            
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                 on your mental health, physical performance, et cetera,
             
            
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                 well, then you need to consider what the background level
             
            
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                 of dopamine or epinephrine or serotonin happens to be.
             
            
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                 Because in doing so, you will know which tool to select
             
            
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                 and how hard you need to push on that tool, right?
             
            
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                 If your levels of dopamine are already riding pretty high
             
            
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                 because it's the early part of the day,
             
            
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                 well, then it doesn't take a whole lot more
             
            
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                 to get dopamine to a level in which it can, for instance,
             
            
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                 change your level of motivation.
             
            
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                 Whereas if you are in the late part of the day,
             
            
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                 let's say eight or 9 p.m.
             
            
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                 and you have a lot of serotonin
             
            
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                 swimming around in your system
             
            
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                 and you really need to be focused and alert,
             
            
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                 well, you can do that by leveraging
             
            
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                 the dopamine and epinephrine system
             
            
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                 and indeed the acetylcholine system too,
             
            
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                 but you're going to have to resort to tools
             
            
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                 that can do that far more potently
             
            
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                 and that can do that in a much more sustained way
             
            
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                 if you're going to access the state that you want.
             
            
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                 So again, it's really important to understand
             
            
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                 what the backdrop of these neuromodulators is,
             
            
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                 the so-called baseline, and that they vary across the day
             
            
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                 if you're going to be able to leverage tools
             
            
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                 to optimize your brain chemistry.
             
            
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                 Anyone that tells you do this protocol
             
            
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                 in order to increase your dopamine, do this protocol
             
            
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                 or take this supplement to increase your serotonin,
             
            
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                 they can be telling you the absolute truth,
             
            
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                 but if you don't consider the backdrop
             
            
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                 over which that supplement or behavior
             
            
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                 is going to have its effect,
             
            
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                 well, then you can't really predict the effect it will have,
             
            
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                 but if you can understand these backdrop baseline elements
             
            
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                 to how neuromodulators work,
             
            
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                 well, then you're in a terrific position
             
            
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                 to leverage the best tools in the immediate and short-term
             
            
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                 and that is on the order of seconds, minutes, and hours.
             
            
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                 Before we dive into the more pointed, directed effects
             
            
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                 of specific tools on neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 I'd like to just briefly mention hormones
             
            
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                 because they are also important for understanding
             
            
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                 the background and the context
             
            
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                 and these baseline levels of neuromodulators.
             
            
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                 Now, here I'm going to paint with a bit of a broad brush,
             
            
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                 but what I will say is accurate
             
            
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                 even though it might not be exhaustive.
             
            
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                 What I mean by that is everything I'm about to say is true,
             
            
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                 but it doesn't cover every example in detail
             
            
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                 and nuanced possibility out there.
             
            
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                 Hormones have many different effects on the brain and body
             
            
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                 and not unlike neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 some of those effects are very fast,
             
            
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                 some of them are very slow.
             
            
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                 In fact, certain hormones, for instance,
             
            
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                 the steroid hormones like estrogen and like testosterone
             
            
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                 and corticosterones, and here, of course,
             
            
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                 I'm referring to the steroid hormones for what they are.
             
            
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                 They are indeed steroid hormones,
             
            
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                 but I'm not talking about steroids
             
            
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                 that people inject for sports performance
             
            
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                 or for physical augmentation.
             
            
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                 I'm talking about the steroid hormones
             
            
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                 that you make naturally
             
            
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                 because indeed you make these naturally.
             
            
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                 Well, the steroid hormones
             
            
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                 can actually control gene expression.
             
            
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                 They can change the identity of cells
             
            
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                 and the genes and proteins that cells express.
             
            
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                 This is why during puberty, for instance,
             
            
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                 testosterone and estrogen are released into the body,
             
            
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                 growth hormone is released into the body,
             
            
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                 and bodies and voices and personalities and brains
             
            
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                 change tremendously because literally
             
            
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                 there is a transformation of the breast tissue,
             
            
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                 of the testicular tissue, of the ovarian tissue,
             
            
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                 of the bones, of the muscles,
             
            
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                 of the tissues and cells that control hair growth.
             
            
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                 Gene expression changes in all those cell types
             
            
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                 and the child becomes an adolescent, becomes a young adult.
             
            
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                 That's what puberty really is.
             
            
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                 In fact, puberty is perhaps the most dramatic transformation
             
            
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                 that we go through in our entire lifespan
             
            
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                 in terms of our aging,
             
            
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                 because indeed it reflects a very rapid,
             
            
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                 I should mention, period of aging,
             
            
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                 and transformation of the identity of cells.
             
            
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                 So steroid hormones and other hormones
             
            
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                 can have very slow, long-lasting actions in that way.
             
            
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                 They can also have very fast actions.
             
            
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                 So for instance, adrenaline, epinephrine,
             
            
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                 released from the adrenal glands
             
            
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                 can immediately make your heart beat faster,
             
            
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                 can immediately change the circumference
             
            
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                 of your blood vessels and arteries and capillaries
             
            
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                 and change the way blood flows.
             
            
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                 It can change the way you see the world, literally.
             
            
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                 It does change the way you see the world
             
            
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                 through your visual system.
             
            
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                 And that all happens on the order
             
            
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                 of hundreds of milliseconds or seconds.
             
            
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                 These are extremely fast actions.
             
            
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                 Corticosteroid also can have fast actions and slow actions.
             
            
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                 But since this isn't a discussion about hormones per se,
             
            
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                 and we've done entire episodes like the optimized
             
            
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                 testosterone and estrogen episode,
             
            
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                 you can find that at hubermanlab.com
             
            
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                 or the interview with the incredibly knowledgeable
             
            
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                 and clear and really wonderful tutor
             
            
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                 of actionable information, Dr. Kyle Gillette,
             
            
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                 who is also on this podcast.
             
            
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                 You can learn a lot about hormones there.
             
            
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                 Today, we want to think about hormones
             
            
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                 as they relate to these neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 the dopamine, serotonin, epinephrine, and acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 And in general, testosterone tends to collaborate
             
            
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                 with and increase the action of dopamine.
             
            
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                 That's not always the case, but in general,
             
            
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                 when testosterone goes up, dopamine goes up.
             
            
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                 And sometimes even vice versa,
             
            
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                 when dopamine goes up, testosterone go up.
             
            
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                 And this is true for both males and for females.
             
            
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                 In general, when corticosterones like cortisol
             
            
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                 and some related steroid hormones increase,
             
            
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                 epinephrine levels go up.
             
            
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                 And in general, when hormones like oxytocin
             
            
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                 or prolactin are increased, levels of serotonin go up.
             
            
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                 We can't draw a direct link between any one hormone system
             
            
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                 and acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 Acetylcholine kind of sits off in a category
             
            
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                 of its own in that way.
             
            
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                 But again, in general, testosterone and dopamine
             
            
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                 tend to collaborate in the same direction.
             
            
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                 Cortisol and epinephrine tend to collaborate
             
            
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                 in the same direction.
             
            
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                 Oxytocin and prolactin, which are hormones,
             
            
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                 and serotonin tend to collaborate in the same direction.
             
            
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                 And then we have poor old lonely acetylcholine
             
            
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                 off on its own, but it's not poor and lonely.
             
            
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                 It actually has incredibly potent effects on its own.
             
            
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                 So it's really that it just doesn't need much help
             
            
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                 from the hormone systems,
             
            
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                 or at least not the steroid hormone systems
             
            
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                 in order to have its tremendous effects.
             
            
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                 Now, a lot of what people think about and will do
             
            
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                 when trying to improve mental health and physical health
             
            
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                 is they will try and increase or decrease
             
            
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                 certain categories of hormones of the sort that I mentioned,
             
            
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                 testosterone, estrogen, oxytocin, prolactin, and so on.
             
            
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                 But oftentimes the effects of those manipulations
             
            
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                 in hormones that are going to be most salient
             
            
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                 are not going to be due to the direct effects
             
            
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                 of those hormones.
             
            
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                 Sometimes it could be,
             
            
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                 but oftentimes it's going to be due to their effects
             
            
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                 on the brain and nervous system
             
            
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                 by way of how those hormones impact neuromodulators.
             
            
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                 So for instance, there are various things
             
            
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                 that people can do, both men and women,
             
            
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                 to increase their testosterone and estrogen
             
            
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                 in the appropriate ratios.
             
            
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                 I talked about one such approach in a previous episode,
             
            
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                 and that is to get sunlight onto a large portion
             
            
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                 of one's skin each day.
             
            
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                 Believe it or not, this actually works,
             
            
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                 and it works because your skin
             
            
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                 is actually an endocrine organ, a hormone secreting organ.
             
            
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                 It's a beautiful study.
             
            
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                 I've covered it on this podcast before.
             
            
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                 We will provide a link to this study again,
             
            
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                 but it had people spend at least 20 minutes or so,
             
            
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                 closer to 30 minutes each day,
             
            
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                 trying to maximize sunlight exposure
             
            
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                 to as much of their skin as they could
             
            
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                 in terms of still maintaining decent exposure,
             
            
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                 meaning not overexposing themselves in a cultural way,
             
            
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                 meaning wearing enough clothes that they were decent,
             
            
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                 but still getting a lot of sun exposure
             
            
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                 a couple of times per week or more.
             
            
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                 What they found was that people's testosterone
             
            
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                 and estrogen levels went up, feelings of wellbeing went up,
             
            
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                 feelings of well, or I should say,
             
            
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                 increases in libido were observed as well.
             
            
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                 They subjectively reported more passion, et cetera.
             
            
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                 Testosterone and estrogen did indeed both go up.
             
            
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                 And again, I want to highlight that increases in estrogen,
             
            
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                 not just testosterone, are related to increases in libido
             
            
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                 in both men and women.
             
            
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                 This is why you never want to crush your estrogen
             
            
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                 down to zero, whether or not you're male or female,
             
            
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                 if you want to maintain some sort of healthy libido.
             
            
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                 And general feelings of wellbeing unrelated to libido.
             
            
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                 Well, many of those effects we know
             
            
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                 are not due to direct effects of testosterone and estrogen,
             
            
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                 but rather are due to the effects of testosterone
             
            
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                 and estrogen on the neuromodulators, dopamine and serotonin,
             
            
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                 because much of libido and feelings of wellbeing
             
            
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                 and feelings of relaxation,
             
            
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                 but also desire, motivation, et cetera,
             
            
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                 originate because of the activation of neural circuits
             
            
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                 that dopamine controls and promotes,
             
            
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                 and that serotonin promote and control.
             
            
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                 So this is very important to understand
             
            
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                 as we move toward more specific discussion of the chemicals
             
            
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                 that we call neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 because hormones are controlling those neuromodulators
             
            
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                 in a very slow modulatory way.
             
            
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                 So yes, I said it, hormones modulate neuromodulators.
             
            
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                 I sort of said it twice on purpose.
             
            
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                 And this is a dramatic and potent effect.
             
            
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                 So I'll just give you one more example.
             
            
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                 The hormone prolactin tends to be antagonistic.
             
            
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                 It tends to reduce amounts of dopamine,
             
            
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                 or at least when prolactin levels are high,
             
            
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                 dopamine levels tend to be lower.
             
            
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                 You observe this after the birth of a new child,
             
            
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                 you observe this postcoitally after mating in all species,
             
            
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                 humans and animals.
             
            
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                 When prolactin is elevated, serotonin tends to be elevated.
             
            
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                 And when prolactin is elevated, levels of dopamine
             
            
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                 and the effects of dopamine tend to subside.
             
            
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                 Now, as I move toward explaining
             
            
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                 what each of the four categories of neuromodulators do,
             
            
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                 this will start to make more and more sense
             
            
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                 as to why this would be.
             
            
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                 I always say I wasn't consulted at the design phase,
             
            
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                 meaning I didn't design these circuits.
             
            
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                 And if anyone tells you that they did,
             
            
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                 you should back away quickly
             
            
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                 because none of us designed these circuits.
             
            
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                 This is the way that evolution and nature
             
            
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                 created these systems.
             
            
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                 And they tend to work in a bit of a seesaw fashion,
             
            
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                 prolactin up, dopamine down, right?
             
            
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                 Dopamine up, prolactin down.
             
            
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                 In general, that is the way they work.
             
            
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                 So if we are to take a look at how each of these
             
            
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                 neuromodulator systems functions on its own,
             
            
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                 while understanding that they never truly function
             
            
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                 on their own, we can start to really make sense
             
            
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                 of the landscape of tools that are available to us
             
            
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                 and which tools are going to be most powerful to select
             
            
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                 if our goal is, for instance, to be focused,
             
            
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                 or if our goal is to be less stressed,
             
            
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                 or if our goal is to be highly motivated
             
            
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                 and highly focused for sake of learning.
             
            
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                 All of that is indeed possible
             
            
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                 if you understand these four neuromodulators
             
            
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                 and you understand that while there are many tools
             
            
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                 ranging from pharmacologic to behavioral
             
            
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                 that can tap into these neuromodulator systems
             
            
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                 that can kind of press on the gas of dopamine,
             
            
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                 pull back on serotonin and so on,
             
            
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                 but that there are particular tools,
             
            
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                 both behavioral and supplementation-based,
             
            
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                 and to some extent, prescription drug-based too,
             
            
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                 and we'll touch on a few of those.
             
            
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                 If you understand that and why they work,
             
            
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                 well then you can create a sort of kit,
             
            
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                 a grab bag of things that you can use in any context,
             
            
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                 or I should say that you can look to,
             
            
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                 depending on the context you're in,
             
            
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                 and create the states of body and mind that you want.
             
            
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                 Now, once again, painting with a somewhat broad brush,
             
            
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                 but nonetheless, an accurate brush,
             
            
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                 we can say that dopamine, when elevated above baseline,
             
            
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                 tends to increase states of motivation,
             
            
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                 both mental and physical motivation,
             
            
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                 drive, and to some extent, focus.
             
            
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                 I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again,
             
            
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                 there's a lot of misconception about dopamine.
             
            
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                 Many people out there think that dopamine
             
            
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                 is all about pleasure, you hear about dopamine hits,
             
            
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                 or people chasing dopamine,
             
            
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                 or the need to have a dopamine fast, et cetera.
             
            
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                 Dopamine is not about pleasure,
             
            
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                 dopamine is about motivation, craving, and pursuit,
             
            
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                 for goals or for things that are outside
             
            
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                 our immediate possession and experience.
             
            
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                 The motivation and pursuit of a mate,
             
            
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                 the motivation and pursuit to mate,
             
            
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                 the motivation and pursuit of food,
             
            
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                 the motivation and pursuit of a career goal,
             
            
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                 et cetera, et cetera.
             
            
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                 Things we do not yet have, but that we want,
             
            
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                 and we get into sort of a forward center of mass
             
            
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                 and a pursuit of, and that pursuit can be physical,
             
            
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                 that pursuit can be cognitive,
             
            
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                 it can be both cognitive and physical,
             
            
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                 and it can involve talking about something, right?
             
            
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                 Because in some professions,
             
            
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                 pursuit of things involves talking.
             
            
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                 I think about lawyers, they talk a lot
             
            
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                 in pursuit of winning cases and money, et cetera,
             
            
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                 putting people in jail or keeping people out of jail,
             
            
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                 et cetera, that's done with their mouths,
             
            
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                 not with their bodies.
             
            
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                 Athletes in a state of motivated training
             
            
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                 or in motivated competition use their bodies,
             
            
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                 which all this is obvious, of course,
             
            
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                 but perhaps what is not so obvious is that one molecule,
             
            
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                 not working alone, but predominantly one molecule, dopamine,
             
            
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                 is responsible for all of those motivated states,
             
            
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                 which again underscores the power of these neuromodulators.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So dopamine, we can think of,
             
            
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                 at least in the context of today's discussion,
             
            
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                 as controlling and indeed promoting motivation,
             
            
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                 drive, and pursuit, and to some extent, focus.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Epinephrine and a closely related molecule
             
            
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                 called norepinephrine, and again,
             
            
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                 I want to emphasize that epinephrine is adrenaline
             
            
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                 and adrenaline is epinephrine.
             
            
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                 Norepinephrine is noradrenaline
             
            
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                 and noradrenaline is norepinephrine,
             
            
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                 but today we're going to just simply talk
             
            
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                 about epinephrine and norepinephrine.
             
            
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                 That category of neuromodulator is mainly responsible
             
            
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                 for generating our energy,
             
            
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                 our level of fuel and baseline level
             
            
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                 of forward center of mass, as I like to call it.
             
            
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                 You can also think of it as how high your RPM are.
             
            
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                 Now we're not a car and the car analogy sort of falls apart
             
            
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                 as we go further into the biology,
             
            
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                 but it's a decent one for now.
             
            
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                 When epinephrine levels are high, we tend to feel agitated,
             
            
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                 we tend to feel like we want to move,
             
            
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                 we tend to feel like we can't shut down our thinking
             
            
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                 and our anticipation of what's going to happen next.
             
            
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                 And when epinephrine levels are very, very low,
             
            
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                 we actually have less physical energy,
             
            
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                 we tend to have less mental energy
             
            
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                 in terms of generating thoughts very quickly
             
            
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                 and so on and so forth.
             
            
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                 And as I mentioned before,
             
            
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                 dopamine and epinephrine are closely related,
             
            
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                 so much so that we know for a fact
             
            
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                 that epinephrine is actually manufactured
             
            
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                 from the molecule dopamine.
             
            
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                 So that's why I'm talking about these two neuromodulators
             
            
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                 in very close juxtaposition
             
            
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                 because they do indeed collaborate with one another.
             
            
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                 But for sake of today's discussion,
             
            
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                 we can just think of epinephrine as increasing energy.
             
            
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                 Adrenaline increases energy and our state of readiness.
             
            
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                 It also, I should mention, activates our immune system.
             
            
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                 Contrary to popular belief
             
            
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                 that stress inhibits our immune system,
             
            
                link |
                
                 epinephrine is deployed,
             
            
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                 it's released at great levels in our brain and body
             
            
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                 when we are stressed,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and that actually protects us
             
            
                link |
                
                 against infections of multiple kinds,
             
            
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                 at least in the short term.
             
            
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                 That and all the details of that and tools related to that
             
            
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                 were covered in our episode on the immune system,
             
            
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                 if you want to check that out.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, the neuromodulator serotonin
             
            
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                 creates a number of different states in the brain and body,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but for sake of today's discussion,
             
            
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                 we're going to think about the predominant states
             
            
            
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                 and those are states of contentness,
             
            
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                 being happy, feeling fairly relaxed, feeling soothed,
             
            
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                 and to some extent, even some relief from pain
             
            
            
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                 Serotonin is associated with a feeling of satiety,
             
            
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                 of having enough of what we already have.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, when serotonin is very, very high,
             
            
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                 people can even be sedate.
             
            
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                 They can be completely amotivated,
             
            
                link |
                
                 no motivation to seek out things like food or sex or work,
             
            
            
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                 Whereas when serotonin levels are very low,
             
            
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                 people can actually exhibit agitation
             
            
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                 and high levels of stress.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So the levels matter here,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but again, for sake of today's conversation,
             
            
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                 when we leverage serotonin,
             
            
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                 where you are really leveraging a neuromodulator
             
            
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                 that tends to increase the activity of neural circuits
             
            
                link |
                
                 in the brain and body that make us feel relaxed and happy,
             
            
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                 and it tends to decrease the activity of neural circuits
             
            
                link |
                
                 that make us rabidly in pursuit of things
             
            
                link |
                
                 that we don't have, right?
             
            
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                 The opposite of content and sated is motivation,
             
            
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                 desire, and hunger and thirst for things that we don't have.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So serotonin is the molecule of peace.
             
            
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                 It is the molecule of contentness.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It is the molecule of having enough,
             
            
                link |
                
                 at least for the time being,
             
            
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                 or the feeling that we have enough for the time being.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, acetylcholine is a fourth category of neuromodulator
             
            
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                 that, as I mentioned earlier, is somewhat, not totally,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but somewhat distinct from any direct control
             
            
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                 by the major hormone systems of the body,
             
            
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                 or at least the major steroid hormone systems.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And acetylcholine, we can say,
             
            
                link |
                
                 is mainly associated with states of focus.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And we can go a step further and say that
             
            
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                 it's mainly associated with steps of focus
             
            
                link |
                
                 as they relate to learning and encoding new information,
             
            
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                 so-called neuroplasticity.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, neuroplasticity,
             
            
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                 or the brain and nervous system's ability
             
            
                link |
                
                 to change in response to experience,
             
            
                link |
                
                 can be impacted by an enormous number of different chemicals,
             
            
                link |
                
                 not just acetylcholine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 But acetylcholine has a particularly potent ability
             
            
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                 to open up the thing that we call neuroplasticity
             
            
                link |
                
                 to allow plasticity to happen in one moment,
             
            
                link |
                
                 whereas in a previous moment, it could not occur
             
            
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                 because acetylcholine had not been released in the brain
             
            
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                 or in the spinal cord.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So acetylcholine is involved in focus and in learning,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but it is not necessarily always associated
             
            
                link |
                
                 with learning in the context of highly motivated,
             
            
                link |
                
                 really ramped up states.
             
            
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                 It can be, but acetylcholine can also be released
             
            
                link |
                
                 and can encourage the learning and neuroplasticity
             
            
                link |
                
                 associated with calm states.
             
            
                link |
                
                 For instance, if somebody has a newborn child,
             
            
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                 we know that they are flooded with oxytocin,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which has actually even been called the love hormone,
             
            
                link |
                
                 although it does many things in addition
             
            
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                 to control feelings of romantic attachment
             
            
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                 and attachment to children, et cetera.
             
            
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                 It does all of that, but it does a lot more as well.
             
            
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                 But when people have a new child,
             
            
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                 they also tend to be hyper-focused on that child,
             
            
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                 not just its wellbeing, but they narrow all their thinking,
             
            
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                 all their vision, all their hearing to that child
             
            
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                 and their obvious adaptive reasons for wanting to do that.
             
            
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                 I recall a family dinner we had,
             
            
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                 gosh, this was over 10 years ago,
             
            
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                 we had a couple over, my mom was in the habit
             
            
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                 of inviting people over who didn't have places
             
            
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                 to go on the holidays, because that's just who she is,
             
            
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                 and I think it's quite nice.
             
            
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                 So we brought over this couple, they had a newborn,
             
            
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                 I think this baby had been born
             
            
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                 maybe two or three weeks before,
             
            
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                 and it was seated, not seated, it was lying down,
             
            
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                 it couldn't see, it was like a potato bug,
             
            
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                 it barely holds head up,
             
            
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                 but it was lying in a little bassinet on the floor
             
            
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                 as we ate dinner, and it was almost hilarious,
             
            
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                 it actually was hilarious, we laughed a lot about this,
             
            
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                 that the entire meal,
             
            
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                 they were basically staring at this baby,
             
            
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                 they were so clearly in love with the baby
             
            
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                 and so flooded with oxytocin and also prolactin,
             
            
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                 that they couldn't take their focus off this baby,
             
            
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                 it was actually really wonderful and endearing to see,
             
            
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                 but in addition to that, I'd be willing to bet,
             
            
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                 had I been able to do a little bit of micro dialysis,
             
            
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                 which is the ability to measure the amounts
             
            
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                 of neuromodulator at a given location in the brain,
             
            
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                 had I been able to do that experiment on them,
             
            
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                 in that moment, I would have found
             
            
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                 that levels of acetylcholine were exceedingly high
             
            
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                 because they were so hyper-focused on this child,
             
            
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                 not just in love with, but focused on that child,
             
            
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                 and without a doubt, the neural circuits
             
            
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                 related to focus and plasticity were heavily engaged,
             
            
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                 again, for obvious adaptive reasons
             
            
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                 related to child rearing and learning the coos and cries
             
            
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                 and pain signals and pleasure signals of one's offspring.
             
            
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                 So we have dopamine associated with motivation,
             
            
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                 drive, and pursuit, and to some extent, focus.
             
            
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                 We have epinephrine and norepinephrine associated
             
            
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                 with energy of having a forward center of mass,
             
            
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                 mentally and or physically.
             
            
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                 We have serotonin, which is associated
             
            
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                 with a peaceful, content, sated state of being.
             
            
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                 And we have acetylcholine,
             
            
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                 which is associated with focus and in particular focus
             
            
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                 as it relates to learning and encoding new information.
             
            
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                 So let's say you want to be more motivated.
             
            
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                 You want to be more in pursuit of goals,
             
            
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                 and you want to have more energy and to be more focused.
             
            
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                 There are many ways to go about that.
             
            
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                 In fact, there's a near infinite cloud of opportunities,
             
            
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                 everything from prescription drugs to illicit drugs,
             
            
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                 which I certainly do not recommend, supplements, nutrition.
             
            
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                 You can listen to particular music.
             
            
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                 You can do all sorts of cognitive, behavioral,
             
            
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                 nutritional supplementation tricks,
             
            
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                 or you can just understand that what you're really after
             
            
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                 are increases in dopamine above baseline that you control.
             
            
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                 And there are ways to control them that are quite potent.
             
            
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                 And science tells us which tools are going to be
             
            
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                 the most potent and the most versatile for you.
             
            
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                 So I'm going to share those tools with you now
             
            
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                 with the caveat that each one of those tools
             
            
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                 could be its own entire podcast episode
             
            
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                 and that we've done it near entire episodes
             
            
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                 on each of these tools or small collections of these tools.
             
            
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                 So I'm going to cover these in somewhat superficial manner.
             
            
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                 We can provide links to previous episodes
             
            
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                 that relate to each of these tools in detail,
             
            
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                 but I'll give you enough detail about them
             
            
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                 that would allow you to incorporate them into your routine
             
            
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                 should you choose.
             
            
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                 Let's say you want to increase dopamine
             
            
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                 for sake of increasing motivation.
             
            
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                 The first thing to do is to understand
             
            
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                 what the natural behavioral tools are for increasing dopamine
             
            
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                 and to do those as consistently as possible.
             
            
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                 Again, these are tools that you'll want to do
             
            
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                 nearly every day, if not every day.
             
            
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                 And I know I'm sounding like a broken record on this one,
             
            
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                 but here again, we come to sunlight
             
            
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                 and I should say not just the desire to,
             
            
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                 but really the need for viewing the maximum amount
             
            
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                 of sunlight that one can reasonably get
             
            
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                 given schedules and locations in the world,
             
            
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                 time of year, et cetera, in the early part of the day.
             
            
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                 Within the first hour of waking,
             
            
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                 ideally, but certainly in the first three hours of your day,
             
            
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                 you are going to want to maximize sunlight exposure
             
            
            
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                 Never look at the sun or any other light so bright
             
            
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                 that it's painful to look at.
             
            
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                 And yes, of course, blinking is fine,
             
            
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                 but no, take sunglasses off,
             
            
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                 go outside once the sun is out
             
            
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                 and get some natural light in your eyes.
             
            
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                 And if it's appropriate,
             
            
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                 or I should say in a way that's appropriate,
             
            
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                 maximize the amount of sunlight exposure to your skin,
             
            
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                 but please don't get burned.
             
            
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                 Please do wear sunscreen if you're prone to getting burned.
             
            
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                 Typically, early day sunlight is not going to burn you,
             
            
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                 at least not most people,
             
            
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                 unless you're extremely fair skinned.
             
            
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                 So don't get burned,
             
            
                link |
                
                 do what you need to in order to protect yourself from burn.
             
            
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                 There's some emerging controversy about sunscreen
             
            
                link |
                
                 and which ones are safe and which ones aren't safe.
             
            
                link |
                
                 We have not done an episode on that yet,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but I find it to be an important and interesting topic.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Daria Rose, Dr. Daria Rose, I should say,
             
            
                link |
                
                 has a podcast called the Daria Rose Podcast
             
            
                link |
                
                 and did an episode all about sunscreens which are safe,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which are not safe by interviewing an expert on that.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So I refer you to that podcast as it relates to sunscreen,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but get some natural light exposure in your eyes.
             
            
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                 And if you wake up before the sun comes out,
             
            
                link |
                
                 turn on as many bright lights inside
             
            
                link |
                
                 as you can turn on reasonably,
             
            
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                 given your electric bill, et cetera.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Get a lot of bright sunlight exposure early in the day
             
            
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                 and get a lot of sunlight exposure to your skin
             
            
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                 in the early part of the day
             
            
                link |
                
                 in a way that doesn't burn you,
             
            
                link |
                
                 meaning burn your skin or blind you.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Please, please don't do anything that harms your vision,
             
            
                link |
                
                 like stare into bright light that's painful.
             
            
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                 What does that do?
             
            
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                 Well, it sets in motion
             
            
                link |
                
                 a number of different biological cascades.
             
            
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                 Some are very fast.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There are fast actions of sunlight that will trigger,
             
            
                link |
                
                 for instance, dopamine release
             
            
                link |
                
                 from different parts of your brain
             
            
                link |
                
                 and your endocrine system.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And we now know that it increases levels of genes
             
            
                link |
                
                 related to thyroid hormone
             
            
                link |
                
                 and actually increases certain dopamine receptors.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So there's a wonderful paper.
             
            
                link |
                
                 We will provide a link to this paper
             
            
                link |
                
                 that shows that sunlight exposure
             
            
                link |
                
                 can actually increase the amount of so-called DRD4.
             
            
                link |
                
                 This is a particular type of dopamine receptor,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the dopamine receptor 4.
             
            
                link |
                
                 The genes for dopamine receptor 4
             
            
                link |
                
                 are actually under photic control.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So if you get sunlight exposure to your eyes,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and it does have to be to your eyes
             
            
                link |
                
                 in the early part of the day,
             
            
                link |
                
                 you increase the amount of dopamine receptor that you have,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which allows whatever circulating dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 happens to be there to have a greater effect on motivation
             
            
                link |
                
                 and I should say also on mood and feelings
             
            
                link |
                
                 of being in pursuit
             
            
                link |
                
                 and generally in craving and pursuit of things in life.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now there's another way to increase the effect
             
            
                link |
                
                 of whatever dopamine happens to be circulating
             
            
                link |
                
                 in your brain and body.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And this again relates to increasing the number
             
            
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                 or the efficacy of the receptors for dopamine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now here we're not talking about the dopamine receptor 4,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but a different category of dopamine receptors,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the D2 and D3 receptors,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which are expressed multiple places in your brain and body
             
            
                link |
                
                 and bind dopamine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 meaning dopamine parks in them like a parking spot
             
            
                link |
                
                 and allows dopamine to generally increase the activity
             
            
                link |
                
                 of the neurons and cells
             
            
                link |
                
                 that express those dopamine receptors.
             
            
                link |
                
                 How do you do that?
             
            
                link |
                
                 Well, it turns out that regular ingestion of caffeine
             
            
                link |
                
                 at safe and appropriate levels about 100 to 250 milligrams
             
            
                link |
                
                 is going to increase the number of D2
             
            
                link |
                
                 and D3 dopamine receptors.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I talked a little bit about this on a previous episode.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Again, we'll provide links to these studies,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but this is an important finding, I believe,
             
            
                link |
                
                 because this is not about the acute,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the immediate effects of caffeine on alertness,
             
            
                link |
                
                 although those occur too.
             
            
                link |
                
                 When you drink caffeine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 it's going to increase your levels of adrenaline
             
            
                link |
                
                 and so-called epinephrine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which will increase your energy levels.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It's going to decrease levels of something called adenosine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which builds up while you're sleepy.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It's going to make you feel less sleepy,
             
            
                link |
                
                 more alert, more energetic.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That's sort of obvious,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but what's less obvious is that it's increasing the number
             
            
                link |
                
                 and efficacy of dopamine receptors
             
            
                link |
                
                 so that whatever dopamine happens to be around
             
            
                link |
                
                 in your system is going to have more of a potent effect.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So how much caffeine should you drink?
             
            
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                 That's going to vary from person to person.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Some people are very sensitive to caffeine, others are not.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I tend to be fairly insensitive to caffeine
             
            
                link |
                
                 because I've been drinking it for a long period of time,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but after one or two cups of espresso or coffee,
             
            
                link |
                
                 I feel like I've had enough.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I tend to drink my caffeine early in the day,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which is what I'm going to recommend that you do,
             
            
                link |
                
                 not drinking caffeine past two and certainly not 4 p.m.
             
            
                link |
                
                 if you're on a typical schedule
             
            
                link |
                
                 and you want to be able to sleep that night,
             
            
                link |
                
                 even if you can fall asleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 having too much caffeine in your system is not good
             
            
                link |
                
                 because it disrupts the architecture of sleep.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And now knowing about all the metabolic variability
             
            
                link |
                
                 across the night, according to different stages of sleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 it should be even more obvious
             
            
                link |
                
                 as to why disrupting the architecture of sleep
             
            
                link |
                
                 will be bad for you.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So limit that caffeine intake to early in the day
             
            
                link |
                
                 and don't go ballistic if you're not,
             
            
                link |
                
                 certainly don't go ballistic in any case,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but for most people,
             
            
                link |
                
                 anywhere from 100 to 400 milligrams of caffeine
             
            
                link |
                
                 is going to have this effect.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And this effect again is a slow accumulating effect
             
            
                link |
                
                 by drinking caffeine consistently day to day.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I get my caffeine mainly from yerba mate tea.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I want to emphasize that it's probably a good idea
             
            
                link |
                
                 to stay away from the smoked mate,
             
            
                link |
                
                 as there's some evidence those can be carcinogenic,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but I brew my own yerba mate tea,
             
            
                link |
                
                 or sometimes I'll drink coffee or espresso
             
            
                link |
                
                 or sometimes both, frankly,
             
            
                link |
                
                 as long as I'm hydrating enough and I'm getting enough salt,
             
            
                link |
                
                 then I tend to feel fine with that much caffeine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 The other way to increase dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 and to make sure that your baseline levels of dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 are high enough is to make sure that you're eating
             
            
                link |
                
                 sufficient numbers of tyrosine-rich foods.
             
            
                link |
                
                 You can look up which foods include tyrosine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Tyrosine is a precursor to dopamine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It's an amino acid that is a direct pathway
             
            
                link |
                
                 to dopamine synthesis.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And tyrosine foods include things like certain meats,
             
            
                link |
                
                 Parmesan cheese, very high in tyrosine, for instance.
             
            
                link |
                
                 In fact, there's something called the cheese effect,
             
            
                link |
                
                 believe it or not.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I don't want to go too far off topic,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but the cheese effect is kind of interesting
             
            
                link |
                
                 because certain people will take antidepressants
             
            
                link |
                
                 that are so-called MAO inhibitors,
             
            
                link |
                
                 monoamine oxidase inhibitors.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Anytime you hear ASE, that's an enzyme,
             
            
                link |
                
                 they will take these inhibitors that prevent
             
            
                link |
                
                 the breakdown of dopamine and other so-called catecholamines
             
            
                link |
                
                 which allow more dopamine to be in circulation.
             
            
                link |
                
                 But if these people eat certain cheeses,
             
            
                link |
                
                 including Parmesan cheese, and there are other foods,
             
            
                link |
                
                 of course, that include not just tyrosine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but one of the derivatives of tyrosine called terramine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that generates what's called the cheese effect,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which is people get potent migraines, headaches,
             
            
                link |
                
                 blood pressure goes up.
             
            
            
                link |
                
                 Well, because they've got a lot of tyrosine in their system
             
            
                link |
                
                 and dopamine in their system,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and they've got less of the enzyme that removes
             
            
                link |
                
                 that dopamine or limits its action.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And so they have an excess of dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 and dopamine has effects on blood pressure, et cetera.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So the cheese effect is something to avoid.
             
            
                link |
                
                 If you are somebody who's taking drugs that tap into
             
            
                link |
                
                 or manipulate the dopamine pathway,
             
            
                link |
                
                 either for Parkinson's or depressions,
             
            
                link |
                
                 obviously you're going to want to be careful about adjusting
             
            
                link |
                
                 up or down levels of dopamine too potently.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So mind the cheese effect if you're taking an MAO inhibitor.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There's a lot of information about this online.
             
            
                link |
                
                 For most people, eating foods like Parmesan cheese,
             
            
                link |
                
                 eating foods like certain meats and certain vegetables
             
            
                link |
                
                 also can increase tyrosine levels,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which will increase dopamine synthesis.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So these are ways of modulating more or less the baseline
             
            
                link |
                
                 of dopamine that you are able to produce
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the ways that dopamine can have its action
             
            
                link |
                
                 by way of binding to receptors more potently.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, there are other ways to increase dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 in a more acute or directed way,
             
            
                link |
                
                 ways to spike your dopamine to enhance your state
             
            
                link |
                
                 of motivation, mood, focus, and so on.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And in thinking about the vast landscape of tools
             
            
                link |
                
                 that can do that, we have one category of tools,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which are the really, really bad things
             
            
                link |
                
                 that I don't recommend anybody do.
             
            
                link |
                
                 In fact, I recommend nobody do ever,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which are things like cocaine, methamphetamine, et cetera.
             
            
                link |
                
                 They are incredibly destructive for lives
             
            
                link |
                
                 because of the way that they so potently increase dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 and then the crash in dopamine that occurs later.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I mean, they can indeed and often do ruin lives.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So we're leaving those off the table.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There are of course, prescription drugs that many people in,
             
            
                link |
                
                 especially people who have clinically diagnosed ADHD,
             
            
                link |
                
                 attention deficit hyperactivity disorder,
             
            
                link |
                
                 rely on and in fact benefit from in many cases,
             
            
                link |
                
                 things like Ritalin, Adderall, Vyvanse.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Nowadays, there's also a lot of interest
             
            
                link |
                
                 in use of things like modafinil or modafinil.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I covered all of those in the episode on ADHD,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and you can find that at hubermanlab.com
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the other places this podcast is found.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Prescription drugs aside,
             
            
                link |
                
                 because they require a prescription and a discussion
             
            
                link |
                
                 that's in depth and appropriate with your physician,
             
            
                link |
                
                 healthcare provider,
             
            
                link |
                
                 there are supplements that can very potently
             
            
                link |
                
                 increase dopamine as well.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Perhaps not to the extent
             
            
                link |
                
                 that some of those other prescription drugs can,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but certainly to a degree that will impact
             
            
                link |
                
                 and increase dopamine and motivation
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the other states dopamine is associated with.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And the two main categories of supplements
             
            
                link |
                
                 that are very effective in raising dopamine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and here I should provide the caveat
             
            
                link |
                
                 that anytime you're going to add or remove anything
             
            
                link |
                
                 from your supplementation protocols,
             
            
                link |
                
                 please talk to a physician
             
            
                link |
                
                 who is knowledgeable on these topics.
             
            
                link |
                
                 If you're somebody who has or is taking drugs
             
            
                link |
                
                 for depression or mania,
             
            
                link |
                
                 please be very cautious about manipulating your dopamine
             
            
            
                link |
                
                 I don't just say that to protect us,
             
            
                link |
                
                 I say that to protect you.
             
            
                link |
                
                 But if we were to look at the supplement landscape
             
            
                link |
                
                 and ask which supplements increase dopamine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 there are a vast number of them,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but the three main ones,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the most effective ones that are readily available out there
             
            
                link |
                
                 without a prescription are macuna prurines.
             
            
                link |
                
                 This is actually the outside of a velvety bean
             
            
                link |
                
                 that has been extracted and put into a supplement.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Macuna prurines is actual L-DOPA.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It's 99% L-DOPA, which is a prescription drug
             
            
                link |
                
                 that is given for Parkinson's and for other purposes
             
            
                link |
                
                 where increasing dopamine is important.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I don't recommend macuna prurines.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I'm not saying that no one should take it,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but I don't take it and I don't recommend it
             
            
                link |
                
                 because it tends to so potently
             
            
                link |
                
                 and acutely increase dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 that there's a pretty substantial crash afterwards.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So I avoid it and I don't generally suggest
             
            
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                 that anyone take it unless there's really a clinical need
             
            
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                 or they're working very closely with somebody
             
            
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                 that can really monitor that.
             
            
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                 The other two supplements that can increase dopamine
             
            
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                 in a short-term way, but in a significant way,
             
            
            
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                 So you can buy that as a supplement amino acid.
             
            
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                 I sometimes take this.
             
            
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                 I would say I probably take it about once a week maximum
             
            
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                 for workouts or workouts.
             
            
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                 I'll take it in dosages of anywhere from 500 milligrams
             
            
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                 to 1,000 milligrams.
             
            
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                 People vary tremendously in their sensitivity
             
            
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                 to supplementing L-tyrosine.
             
            
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                 I know people that can take two grams.
             
            
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                 I know people that can barely take 100 milligrams.
             
            
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                 I know people that the best dose for them is zero milligrams.
             
            
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                 So there's a lot of variation there
             
            
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                 depending on sensitivity
             
            
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                 and their natural baseline levels of dopamine
             
            
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                 and whether or not they're doing a lot of other things
             
            
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                 to support dopamine.
             
            
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                 But nonetheless, taking L-tyrosine will lead
             
            
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                 to fairly substantial increases in dopamine
             
            
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                 within about 15 to 45 minutes.
             
            
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                 And it lasts for about 30 minutes to two hours.
             
            
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                 And then there's kind of a tapering off.
             
            
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                 Some people experience a little bit of an emotional
             
            
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                 or, and, or I should say energetic crash.
             
            
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                 Some people don't.
             
            
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                 And then the other supplement that I certainly use
             
            
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                 and that I know a number of other people use
             
            
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                 is more fast acting, but more potent,
             
            
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                 which is phenylethylamine.
             
            
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                 This relates to the so-called PEA molecule, P, P-E-A.
             
            
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                 And phenylethylamine increases dopamine
             
            
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                 and some metabolites related to dopamine
             
            
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                 in ways that really increase energy
             
            
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                 and feelings of wellbeing and motivation.
             
            
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                 And again, it's fast acting.
             
            
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                 So my particular protocol,
             
            
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                 the one I use is I'll take phenylethylamine
             
            
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                 at dosages of about 300 to 600 milligrams
             
            
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                 along with some L-tyrosine,
             
            
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                 or I'll take it on its own with a molecule,
             
            
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                 or I should say a compound
             
            
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                 that we'll talk about a little bit later
             
            
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                 as it relates to acetylcholine alpha GPC.
             
            
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                 But tyrosine and phenylethylamine taken alone or together
             
            
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                 will make you feel more motivated and more alert,
             
            
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                 more willing and able to lean into
             
            
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                 particular motivated behaviors,
             
            
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                 whether or not they're physical or cognitive.
             
            
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                 If you'd like to learn more about these compounds
             
            
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                 and their supplementation and their effects,
             
            
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                 I encourage you to check out
             
            
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                 the ever valuable website, examine.com.
             
            
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                 It's zero cost to access and they provide references
             
            
                link |
                
                 and some more details about these sorts of compounds
             
            
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                 and other related compounds.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, if we were going to look at behavioral tools
             
            
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                 for potently increasing dopamine,
             
            
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                 that too is a vast landscape.
             
            
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                 And we know based on hundreds, if not thousands of studies,
             
            
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                 that things like winning at some sort of competition
             
            
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                 or succeeding in reaching a goal
             
            
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                 can certainly increase dopamine.
             
            
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                 We talk a lot about this in the episode
             
            
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                 on dopamine motivation and drive, but leaving that aside,
             
            
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                 there are certain behavioral protocols
             
            
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                 that are unrelated to your overall goals and motivations
             
            
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                 that can increase dopamine in a very sustained way.
             
            
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                 And without question,
             
            
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                 the most potent behavioral tool for doing that
             
            
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                 is going to be deliberate cold exposure.
             
            
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                 Deliberate cold exposure has been talked about a lot here
             
            
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                 and elsewhere in terms of its ability to do things
             
            
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                 like reduce inflammation as a way to test
             
            
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                 and improve resilience because uncomfortable cold,
             
            
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                 provided it's applied safely,
             
            
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                 is a great way to learn to be more resilient
             
            
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                 because you're essentially staying
             
            
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                 or forcing yourself to stay in a circumstance
             
            
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                 where your system is flooded with adrenaline.
             
            
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                 But one lesser known aspect of deliberate cold exposure
             
            
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                 is one that's been demonstrated quite convincingly in humans.
             
            
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                 It comes from a study published in the year 2000.
             
            
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                 I'll link to this study.
             
            
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                 I love this study, by the way.
             
            
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                 I covered it many times on this podcast
             
            
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                 because I love it so much and I think it's truly important.
             
            
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                 And that's the study from Sramak et al.
             
            
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                 entitled Human Physiological Responses to Immersion
             
            
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                 into Water of Different Temperatures.
             
            
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                 I'm not going to go into this into a ton of detail
             
            
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                 for sake of time, but basically what they show
             
            
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                 is that putting people into cold water,
             
            
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                 and I should mention the water that they used in this study
             
            
            
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                 They had a bunch of different conditions,
             
            
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                 but they had people that got into, for instance,
             
            
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                 60 degree Fahrenheit water for up to two hours,
             
            
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                 had them sitting there in a lawn chair up to their neck,
             
            
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                 had very long sustained increases in dopamine transmission
             
            
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                 and dopamine circulation in their brain and body.
             
            
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                 And also some of the other catecholamines.
             
            
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                 As I mentioned before, dopamine tends to collaborate
             
            
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                 with epinephrine and vice versa.
             
            
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                 Now you don't need to put yourself
             
            
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                 into 60 degree Fahrenheit water
             
            
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                 to get these kinds of sustained increases.
             
            
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                 And you certainly don't need to do it for two hours.
             
            
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                 We have strong reason to believe,
             
            
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                 based on subsequent studies,
             
            
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                 in fact, published just this last year,
             
            
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                 that getting into much colder water of say 50 degrees
             
            
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                 or 55 degrees or even 45 degrees Fahrenheit
             
            
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                 can potently increase dopamine and epinephrine as well.
             
            
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                 And that you don't need to expose yourself
             
            
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                 to that cold water for nearly as long.
             
            
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                 So perhaps even as short as one minute
             
            
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                 or even 30 seconds exposure to really cold water
             
            
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                 can lead to these potent long lasting increases in dopamine.
             
            
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                 Many people will ask which protocols to follow.
             
            
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                 For instance, will a cold shower suffice?
             
            
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                 Very likely yes, if your shower gets cold enough.
             
            
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                 Do you need ice floating in the bath?
             
            
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                 No, it's all about the temperature
             
            
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                 and not whether or not there's ice present or not.
             
            
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                 How long to stay in there?
             
            
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                 There are a lot of details
             
            
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                 that we don't have time to go into this episode.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Please see the episode on the use of deliberate cold
             
            
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                 for health and performance.
             
            
                link |
                
                 You'll find that at hubermanlab.com.
             
            
                link |
                
                 We have a newsletter related to this.
             
            
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                 It gets into a lot of detailed protocols.
             
            
                link |
                
                 But in general, we can say that the way to evoke dopamine
             
            
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                 and epinephrine release using cold water
             
            
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                 is to ideally you would do cold water immersion.
             
            
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                 If you can't, you'd use cold shower.
             
            
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                 But you want to use a temperature that is safe,
             
            
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                 meaning you're not going to have a heart attack,
             
            
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                 but that is uncomfortable
             
            
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                 such that you really want to get out
             
            
                link |
                
                 and then staying in for anywhere from one minute
             
            
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                 to 10 minutes, depending on how cold adapted you are,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and then getting out and drying off
             
            
                link |
                
                 and going about your day
             
            
                link |
                
                 unless you have some other protocol
             
            
                link |
                
                 that you're trying to extract from the cold.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So this is a cold exposure protocol
             
            
                link |
                
                 specifically aimed at increasing dopamine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 For some people out there, you might think,
             
            
                link |
                
                 this is kind of silly,
             
            
                link |
                
                 using cold water to increase dopamine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 But when you look at the data in humans
             
            
                link |
                
                 on the effect of cold water exposure
             
            
                link |
                
                 to stimulate long lasting,
             
            
                link |
                
                 very significant increases in dopamine and epinephrine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 I think you'll agree that this is a really potent tool
             
            
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                 that provided it's given safely and gone about safely
             
            
                link |
                
                 is giving you the kinds of increases in dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 that you would seek using prescription pharmacology.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, it shouldn't be used as a replacement
             
            
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                 for prescription pharmacology,
             
            
                link |
                
                 although people have done that to success.
             
            
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                 One of the previous guests on the Huberman Lab podcast
             
            
                link |
                
                 was Dr. Anna Lemke,
             
            
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                 our director of the Dual Diagnosis Addiction Clinic
             
            
            
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                 She has an amazing book called Dopamine Nation,
             
            
                link |
                
                 all about dopamine and both its uses healthy
             
            
                link |
                
                 and its perils in things like addiction.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And she describes a patient of hers
             
            
                link |
                
                 that used deliberate cold exposure
             
            
                link |
                
                 to try and maintain dopamine levels
             
            
                link |
                
                 while coming off of drugs
             
            
                link |
                
                 that were increasing dopamine so potently
             
            
                link |
                
                 that they were putting him down the path of addiction.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So the use of cold water for increasing dopamine
             
            
            
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                 It's, I would say, a power tool.
             
            
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                 In fact, it's the kind of thing
             
            
                link |
                
                 that if you want to increase dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 for sake of motivation,
             
            
                link |
                
                 it might be your first go-to
             
            
                link |
                
                 provided you're also doing the things
             
            
                link |
                
                 to maintain dopamine baseline,
             
            
                link |
                
                 like sunlight exposure in particular,
             
            
                link |
                
                 making sure you're getting sufficient amounts of tyrosine
             
            
                link |
                
                 containing foods and so on.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And now just very briefly,
             
            
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                 I want to point to a few quick tools
             
            
                link |
                
                 that good peer-reviewed data tell us can be leveraged
             
            
                link |
                
                 in order to make sure that you have sufficient dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 when you want it or that it's available
             
            
                link |
                
                 for it to be released
             
            
                link |
                
                 by any number of the tools I provided thus far.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And those are sufficient number of B vitamins.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So it turns out that B vitamins,
             
            
                link |
                
                 in particular B6 or vitamin B6,
             
            
                link |
                
                 can potently reduce prolactin levels.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And again, prolactin and dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 tend to work in kind of push-pull fashion.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That said, you should be cautious
             
            
                link |
                
                 about taking excessive levels of B6.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It is a vitamin that if you take too much,
             
            
                link |
                
                 you'll likely excrete it through your urine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but there is evidence
             
            
                link |
                
                 that having excessively high levels of B6
             
            
                link |
                
                 or supplementing with excessively high levels of B6
             
            
                link |
                
                 can cause some peripheral neuropathy,
             
            
                link |
                
                 some death of nerves in the periphery.
             
            
                link |
                
                 If you want to know what dosage levels are relevant there,
             
            
                link |
                
                 just simply look it up online.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There's a lot of information about this,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but you do want to make sure
             
            
                link |
                
                 that you're getting enough B6, B12, et cetera,
             
            
                link |
                
                 such that you can keep prolactin levels in check.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And if you suspect that you have a dopamine deficiency,
             
            
                link |
                
                 please talk to your doctor
             
            
                link |
                
                 and talk to them about ways
             
            
                link |
                
                 you might adjust that prolactin down
             
            
                link |
                
                 and thereby dopamine up.
             
            
                link |
                
                 The other way to ensure that dopamine levels stay high
             
            
                link |
                
                 or put differently that you don't quash
             
            
                link |
                
                 whatever dopamine you have in your system
             
            
                link |
                
                 is to really avoid bright light exposure to your eyes
             
            
                link |
                
                 between the hours of 10 p.m. and 4 a.m.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Or another way of putting this,
             
            
                link |
                
                 because I realize people sleep at different times, et cetera,
             
            
                link |
                
                 is to avoid bright light exposure to your eyes,
             
            
                link |
                
                 not just blue light, but all colors of light,
             
            
                link |
                
                 in phase three, that is 17 to 24 hours after waking up,
             
            
                link |
                
                 because that's really when you should be asleep
             
            
                link |
                
                 or trying to get asleep if you're having trouble sleeping.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Work from Samir Hattar's lab,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the director of the Chronobiology Unit
             
            
                link |
                
                 at the National Institutes of Mental Health,
             
            
                link |
                
                 again, a previous Huberman Lab podcast guest,
             
            
                link |
                
                 tell us that bright light exposure
             
            
                link |
                
                 in phase three of your circadian cycle,
             
            
                link |
                
                 17 to 24 hours after waking,
             
            
                link |
                
                 can have dramatic effects in reducing dopamine levels
             
            
                link |
                
                 by way of activating a neural circuit
             
            
                link |
                
                 involving something called the habenula.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Want to get into too many details right now,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but really try and keep the lights dim
             
            
                link |
                
                 in the middle of the night or off if you can do that safely.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It's really going to help
             
            
                link |
                
                 if you're turning on your phone brightly,
             
            
                link |
                
                 if you're turning on bright lights,
             
            
                link |
                
                 it's not just going to negatively impact melatonin,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the hormone that helps you fall and stay asleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 it's also going to negatively impact dopamine levels,
             
            
                link |
                
                 not just that night, but the subsequent day.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So that more or less summarizes our coverage
             
            
                link |
                
                 of ways to use behavior and supplementation and nutrition
             
            
                link |
                
                 to increase dopamine and dopamine receptor efficacy
             
            
                link |
                
                 and number, and to keep sufficient amounts of dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 in your system day to day for motivation, mood, and focus.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And of course, keep in mind those things
             
            
                link |
                
                 that can suppress dopamine, the bright light exposure,
             
            
                link |
                
                 elevated prolactin, and so on.
             
            
                link |
                
                 My hope is that by understanding those tools
             
            
                link |
                
                 and how they work and understanding
             
            
                link |
                
                 that dopamine does certain things and not others,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that you can assemble a versatile kit of behaviors
             
            
                link |
                
                 and other things that you can do
             
            
                link |
                
                 in order to adjust your dopamine levels
             
            
                link |
                
                 according to your particular goals.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I want to just briefly return to the fact, however,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that all of that is riding on that phase one,
             
            
                link |
                
                 phase two background,
             
            
                link |
                
                 meaning it's probably going to take less cold water exposure
             
            
                link |
                
                 or I should say less time doing cold water exposure
             
            
                link |
                
                 early in the day to get a big increase in dopamine
             
            
                link |
                
                 than it would later in the day,
             
            
                link |
                
                 because later in the day,
             
            
                link |
                
                 your baseline levels of dopamine are lower
             
            
                link |
                
                 and you've got more serotonin circulating.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That should make sense to you now as to why that's the case.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And does that mean that you should really modify
             
            
                link |
                
                 your protocols dramatically?
             
            
                link |
                
                 Probably not, but you might keep that in mind
             
            
                link |
                
                 that if, for instance,
             
            
                link |
                
                 you need to be in a highly motivated focused state
             
            
                link |
                
                 in the late part of the day for whatever reason,
             
            
                link |
                
                 it might take a few or more of these tools in combination
             
            
                link |
                
                 in order to accomplish that.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Whereas if you're somebody
             
            
                link |
                
                 who feels pretty good during the day,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but you're kind of lacking motivation
             
            
                link |
                
                 and you want to increase dopamine levels
             
            
                link |
                
                 and you don't yet need to
             
            
                link |
                
                 or want to resort to prescription drugs or supplementation,
             
            
                link |
                
                 well, then you might layer in a couple behavioral protocols,
             
            
                link |
                
                 paying attention to, of course,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the things that you might be doing
             
            
                link |
                
                 that would also potentially suppress dopamine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So again, that kit of tools is designed for you
             
            
                link |
                
                 to play with if you choose, if it's safe for you,
             
            
                link |
                
                 to apply them, then do that.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Consider doing them individually,
             
            
                link |
                
                 not trying to hit all the tools all at once, right?
             
            
                link |
                
                 I mean, why throw all those tools
             
            
                link |
                
                 at your dopamine system at once?
             
            
                link |
                
                 Better would be to have those tools in your kit
             
            
                link |
                
                 and be able to deploy them
             
            
                link |
                
                 depending on whether or not you're on travel,
             
            
                link |
                
                 whether or not you're eating well or less well,
             
            
                link |
                
                 whether or not you're sleeping well or less well,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that's highly individual.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And I like to think that in having those tools in hand,
             
            
                link |
                
                 you'll be able to adjust them and apply them
             
            
                link |
                
                 in the ways that allow you to access
             
            
                link |
                
                 the dopamine increases that you're after.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So next I'd like to talk about epinephrine,
             
            
                link |
                
                 also called adrenaline.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I want to point out that epinephrine is released
             
            
                link |
                
                 both in the brain and the body.
             
            
                link |
                
                 In fact, there's a barrier between brain and body
             
            
                link |
                
                 that prevents the epinephrine
             
            
                link |
                
                 that's released from your adrenal glands
             
            
                link |
                
                 from crossing the blood-brain barrier.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So your brain has a separate site called the locus coeruleus.
             
            
                link |
                
                 This is a collection of neurons in the back of the brain
             
            
                link |
                
                 that kind of sprinkler the rest of the brain
             
            
                link |
                
                 with epinephrine and essentially wakes up
             
            
                link |
                
                 whatever neural circuits happen to see,
             
            
                link |
                
                 or I should say wake up any circuits
             
            
                link |
                
                 where that epinephrine happens to arrive, right?
             
            
                link |
                
                 And generally increase the excitability of those networks.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That's why we say epinephrine increases energy.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I'm not talking about caloric energy,
             
            
                link |
                
                 although that's distantly related to this,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but really energy and the desire to move,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the feeling that we can think,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the feeling that we can be alert.
             
            
                link |
                
                 In fact, if you look at somebody
             
            
                link |
                
                 and their eyelids are wide open,
             
            
            
                link |
                
                 that's because of a lot of adrenaline in their system.
             
            
                link |
                
                 If their pupils are really big
             
            
                link |
                
                 and their eyes are really wide open in general,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that means they have a lot of epinephrine circulating there.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Whereas when we're tired and we're kind of hood-eyed
             
            
                link |
                
                 and we're just sort of sleepy
             
            
                link |
                
                 or our pupils are really small,
             
            
                link |
                
                 in general, that's because levels of epinephrine
             
            
                link |
                
                 and also dopamine, remember they work together,
             
            
                link |
                
                 levels of epinephrine and dopamine tend to be lower.
             
            
                link |
                
                 This is also why when people take any drug,
             
            
                link |
                
                 like again, not recommending this amphetamine or cocaine
             
            
                link |
                
                 or any stimulant, their pupils tend to be huge,
             
            
                link |
                
                 their eyes tend to be wide open,
             
            
                link |
                
                 they don't blink very often,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the opposite is true when people take sedatives.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So it all starts to make sense
             
            
                link |
                
                 when you think about the basic actions of these things.
             
            
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                 For many people, increasing adrenaline or epinephrine
             
            
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                 might seem like a crazy idea.
             
            
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                 Most people probably associate this molecule with stress
             
            
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                 and they would like to be less stressed.
             
            
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                 And we've done entire episodes about stress,
             
            
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                 how to master stress, how to leverage stress,
             
            
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                 how to conquer stress.
             
            
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                 There are a lot of great tools to do that
             
            
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                 that are behavioral, supplementation-based.
             
            
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                 Please see the episode on mastering stress for those tools.
             
            
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                 But there are people, including me,
             
            
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                 that want to increase our levels of epinephrine
             
            
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                 at least early in the day.
             
            
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                 I'm somebody who wakes up rather slowly.
             
            
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                 In fact, right after waking up,
             
            
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                 I rarely want to bounce out of bed.
             
            
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                 I try and push myself to do that.
             
            
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                 I'm always impressed by these choco-willink types
             
            
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                 that are up at 430 or up at five and already into action.
             
            
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                 I tend to be kind of thinking about thinking about
             
            
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                 maybe being in action early in the day.
             
            
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                 But I try and push myself to get into action,
             
            
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                 which itself can increase epinephrine.
             
            
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                 I should mention that any physical activity,
             
            
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                 any physical activity, walking, running,
             
            
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                 weightlifting, swimming, even talking for that matter,
             
            
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                 is going to increase levels of epinephrine.
             
            
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                 Locus coeruleus is a brain structure
             
            
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                 that is tightly coupled with behaviors
             
            
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                 in a bi-directional way.
             
            
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                 That is when you are in action,
             
            
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                 you increase the amount of epinephrine
             
            
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                 released from locus coeruleus, you wake up the brain.
             
            
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                 And conversely, when locus coeruleus is active,
             
            
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                 the brain wakes up.
             
            
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                 So it's reciprocal.
             
            
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                 It goes both directions.
             
            
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                 So I saw a funny tweet actually earlier today.
             
            
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                 It was something like going to the gym gives you energy,
             
            
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                 but you need energy to go to the gym.
             
            
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                 Sounds like a pyramid scheme to me,
             
            
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                 which made me chuckle,
             
            
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                 but of course overlooks the fact that indeed,
             
            
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                 if you have energy,
             
            
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                 you are more likely to be willing to get
             
            
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                 into physical movement or cognitive movement
             
            
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                 and thinking hard or thinking a lot about something.
             
            
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                 But also it is absolutely scientifically proven
             
            
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                 that being in action increases levels of epinephrine.
             
            
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                 This is why exercising early in the day
             
            
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                 gives you more energy for rest of day.
             
            
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                 You still might experience a little bit of a crash
             
            
            
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                 especially if you're getting up extra early,
             
            
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                 or if you're drinking caffeine too close to waking.
             
            
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                 I've talked about this before.
             
            
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                 If you drink too much caffeine close to waking,
             
            
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                 you're going to have an afternoon crash.
             
            
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                 Better to push that caffeine intake out
             
            
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                 about 90 to 120 minutes after waking.
             
            
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                 I know this is really painful for certain people,
             
            
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                 but caffeine does increase epinephrine.
             
            
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                 Caffeine does other things to limit sleepiness.
             
            
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                 And by pushing it out 90 to 120 minutes after waking,
             
            
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                 you will avoid the afternoon crash to a large degree.
             
            
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                 And if you get up and you exercise
             
            
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                 or even do any movement of any kind,
             
            
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                 a hundred jumping jacks or a walk if you can't do that,
             
            
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                 anything like that will increase the total amount
             
            
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                 of epinephrine that you secrete into your bloodstream
             
            
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                 and in your brain and will get you more energy,
             
            
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                 not just in that moment, but throughout the day.
             
            
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                 So keep that in mind.
             
            
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                 Exercise does indeed give you energy.
             
            
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                 It burns caloric energy,
             
            
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                 but it gives you neural energy by way of increasing
             
            
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                 epinephrine transmission from locus coeruleus.
             
            
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                 And presumably if the exercise is intense enough,
             
            
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                 adrenaline epinephrine release from the adrenals
             
            
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                 within your body as well.
             
            
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                 So we have exercise and we have caffeine as potent tools
             
            
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                 for increasing epinephrine and thereby energy.
             
            
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                 Another potent tool that's purely behavioral,
             
            
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                 but is known to work based on excellent studies in humans.
             
            
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                 And actually my laboratory has been doing similar types
             
            
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                 of studies that are soon to be published.
             
            
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                 We hope is so-called cyclic hyperventilation.
             
            
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                 Some of you may be familiar with Wim Hof breathing.
             
            
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                 There's also Tummo breathing,
             
            
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                 which is very similar Kundalini breathing.
             
            
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                 All of those styles of breathing involve
             
            
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                 cyclic hyperventilation,
             
            
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                 deep inhales and either passive exhales or active exhales,
             
            
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                 but repeating inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale
             
            
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                 in a very deep and repetitive way.
             
            
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                 If you were to do that right now,
             
            
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                 doesn't matter if you do it through your nose or mouth,
             
            
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                 although ideally you would do the inhale through your nose
             
            
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                 and the exhale through your mouth.
             
            
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                 If you did that for 25 repetitions,
             
            
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                 25 inhales and exhales, you would feel more alert.
             
            
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                 You'd also feel more warm, why?
             
            
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                 Because you increased epinephrine adrenaline release
             
            
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                 in the brain and body.
             
            
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                 It works the first time and it works every time
             
            
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                 to increase epinephrine and thereby energy.
             
            
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                 And in fact, there are protocols
             
            
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                 and great scientific studies
             
            
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                 of using cyclic hyperventilation for periods of minutes,
             
            
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                 if not longer, where for instance,
             
            
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                 you would do 25 big inhales and exhales
             
            
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                 followed by a brief breath hold with your lungs empty,
             
            
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                 then repeat 25, then brief breath hold, excuse me, exhale,
             
            
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                 hold your lungs empty,
             
            
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                 and then repeat again for a third round if you like.
             
            
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                 If you do that over and over, you're going to be very alert.
             
            
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                 You're going to have more energy.
             
            
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                 You're going to feel like you want to move around
             
            
            
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                 In fact, you might even feel agitated.
             
            
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                 So people with a lot of anxiety or prone to panic attack
             
            
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                 might want to be cautious in how they train
             
            
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                 and embark on that type of breathing,
             
            
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                 might want to approach it a little more carefully
             
            
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                 or avoid it altogether.
             
            
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                 But for most people, cyclic hyperventilation
             
            
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                 is simply going to get you more energized
             
            
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                 and feeling like you want to move,
             
            
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                 feeling like you can think more clearly
             
            
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                 and you will be more wide-eyed and alert
             
            
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                 because you are releasing adrenaline.
             
            
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                 And the cold water exposure protocol
             
            
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                 that I talked about earlier,
             
            
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                 and that's covered in our episode on cold
             
            
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                 and in the newsletter on cold.
             
            
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                 Well, that, as I mentioned earlier,
             
            
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                 potently increases dopamine, but also epinephrine.
             
            
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                 So that's another terrific tool,
             
            
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                 whether or not it's applied by cold shower or cold immersion
             
            
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                 or some other thing like cryo,
             
            
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                 that is going to make you more alert
             
            
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                 because it releases adrenaline.
             
            
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                 Now, we can't really say that there are foods
             
            
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                 to increase epinephrine.
             
            
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                 Rather, there are foods that include a lot of tyrosine
             
            
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                 that will increase dopamine.
             
            
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                 And remember, dopamine is the molecule
             
            
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                 from which epinephrine is synthesized.
             
            
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                 So we can't really point to a particular food
             
            
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                 or categories of food for increasing epinephrine.
             
            
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                 I think caffeine and things like it
             
            
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                 will increase epinephrine.
             
            
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                 There are, of course, prescription drugs
             
            
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                 that will increase epinephrine.
             
            
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                 And of course, there are all sorts of so-called beta blockers
             
            
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                 that will block the receptors for epinephrine
             
            
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                 to make you feel calm for public speaking
             
            
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                 or for various heart conditions, et cetera.
             
            
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                 That's really the domain of physicians
             
            
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                 and should really be worked out with your cardiologist,
             
            
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                 with a physician, et cetera.
             
            
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                 I think the tools of exercise
             
            
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                 and should you want very potent increases in adrenaline,
             
            
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                 high-intensity exercise,
             
            
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                 as well as the tools of caffeine, cyclic hyperventilation,
             
            
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                 and deliberate cold exposure,
             
            
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                 really combined to give you a nice little kit,
             
            
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                 I would say a versatile kit,
             
            
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                 of ways to increase epinephrine
             
            
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                 for sake of having more physical and mental energy.
             
            
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                 So next is the neuromodulator acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 And as I mentioned earlier,
             
            
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                 acetylcholine is associated with states of focus.
             
            
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                 And those states of focus
             
            
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                 can be high-energy states of focus.
             
            
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                 So the ones that are accompanied
             
            
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                 by high levels of dopamine and epinephrine
             
            
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                 and where we're really excited about
             
            
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                 and really lasered in on something,
             
            
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                 or they can be the calmer, more relaxed states of focus,
             
            
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                 like reading a book or practicing music
             
            
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                 or listening very carefully to somebody
             
            
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                 in a way that's relaxed and calm.
             
            
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                 And yet nonetheless, where we have a narrow cognitive
             
            
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                 and typically a narrow visual aperture,
             
            
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                 and typically also a narrow auditory aperture,
             
            
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                 that is our auditory system and our visual system
             
            
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                 and our thinking can be very broad.
             
            
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                 It can be all over the place,
             
            
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                 or it can be very narrow and it can be very focused.
             
            
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                 Acetylcholine is released from two major sites in the brain,
             
            
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                 nucleus basalis, which is in the forebrain,
             
            
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                 and extends connections out to many different brain areas
             
            
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                 to offer the opportunity to release acetylcholine locally
             
            
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                 and more or less in a chemical way,
             
            
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                 highlight those particular neurons and synapses
             
            
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                 for strengthening for plasticity later.
             
            
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                 And it is released from sites in the back of the brain
             
            
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                 in a way that can increase the so-called fidelity
             
            
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                 of information coming in through our eyes,
             
            
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                 our ears, our nose, et cetera.
             
            
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                 What do I mean by fidelity?
             
            
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                 Well, we are constantly being bombarded
             
            
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                 with sensory information through all of our various senses.
             
            
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                 And acetylcholine released from this area
             
            
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                 in the back of the brain has the ability
             
            
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                 to increase the extent to which say visual information
             
            
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                 or just visual and auditory information
             
            
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                 would make it through to our consciousness,
             
            
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                 whereas all the other types of sensory information
             
            
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                 that are coming in are filtered out.
             
            
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                 So your brain, because it's taking in all this information,
             
            
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                 needs to decide what to pay attention to.
             
            
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                 And in this way, we can say that acetylcholine
             
            
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                 has a lot to do, not just with focus and air quotes,
             
            
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                 but literally attention,
             
            
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                 which neural signals become relevant to our consciousness.
             
            
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                 There's a whole discussion to be had there,
             
            
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                 and we don't have time for that.
             
            
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                 Rather, I'd like to focus on what are the tools
             
            
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                 that one can use to maintain healthy baselines
             
            
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                 of acetylcholine and increase acetylcholine
             
            
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                 for sake of learning any type of information,
             
            
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                 physical, cognitive, or otherwise.
             
            
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                 Now, it turns out there've been a lot of studies,
             
            
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                 including many quality peer-reviewed studies
             
            
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                 carried out in humans,
             
            
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                 looking at what happens when you increase acetylcholine
             
            
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                 levels in the brain,
             
            
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                 and you accompany that with the attempt to learn.
             
            
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                 And what you find almost always
             
            
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                 is that people experience increased focus,
             
            
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                 that when measured,
             
            
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                 the neuronal responses become more specific,
             
            
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                 so less broad scale activity in the brain
             
            
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                 and more specific neural circuit activity,
             
            
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                 and that this triggers immediate and long-lasting changes
             
            
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                 in the way those circuits work,
             
            
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                 even when acetylcholine is not being deployed,
             
            
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                 so-called neuroplasticity,
             
            
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                 the circuits literally change.
             
            
            
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                 The work of Michael Silver at Berkeley,
             
            
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                 the work of Mike Merzenich at UCSF,
             
            
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                 the work of Michael Kilgard down in Texas,
             
            
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                 all of those laboratories see this again and again and again.
             
            
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                 Increase acetylcholine before and during learning,
             
            
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                 and there's a much higher probability
             
            
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                 that the learning will quote unquote sink in,
             
            
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                 that the information will be retained
             
            
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                 because those neural circuits change.
             
            
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                 Now, ways to increase acetylcholine in a potent way
             
            
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                 include, again, nutrition and supplementation.
             
            
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                 It is important to have baseline levels of acetylcholine
             
            
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                 be sufficiently high as well.
             
            
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                 And for that, really the ideal situation
             
            
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                 is to regularly ingest foods
             
            
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                 that provide enough of the precursors
             
            
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                 for acetylcholine to be made.
             
            
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                 If you go online and you were to do a search
             
            
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                 of which foods contain a lot of choline,
             
            
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                 which is related to the synthesis of acetylcholine,
             
            
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                 you would get some interesting information back.
             
            
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                 For instance, beef liver
             
            
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                 is the most potent source of choline.
             
            
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                 I know nowadays there's kind of a growing micro trend,
             
            
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                 if you will, of ingesting beef liver, even raw liver,
             
            
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                 which to be honest,
             
            
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                 the thought of ingesting raw liver of any kind
             
            
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                 activates my area of postrema,
             
            
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                 which is the area of the brain that triggers nausea.
             
            
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                 In fact, I'm starting to salivate a bit,
             
            
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                 not because I'm hungry,
             
            
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                 but I think the whole concept makes me ill.
             
            
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                 Nonetheless, cooked liver or raw liver for that matter,
             
            
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                 or liver of any kind seems to contain a lot of choline.
             
            
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                 I realize most people,
             
            
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                 most people are not going to be running out
             
            
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                 and ingesting large amounts of beef liver.
             
            
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                 Eggs contain a lot of choline, beef contains choline,
             
            
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                 soybeans contain choline.
             
            
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                 So there are vegan or non-meat sources.
             
            
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                 Chicken, fish, mushrooms, kidney beans,
             
            
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                 these sorts of things contain a lot of choline
             
            
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                 and there are other vegetables that contain choline.
             
            
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                 So depending on your dietary preferences and needs,
             
            
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                 you can select certain foods to ingest
             
            
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                 to get enough choline to synthesize
             
            
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                 enough baseline acetylcholine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 In the realm of supplementation,
             
            
                link |
                
                 there are some excellent tools for increasing acetylcholine
             
            
                link |
                
                 in the acute short term,
             
            
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                 meaning over the course of about 30 minutes
             
            
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                 out to about two hours or maybe even four hours.
             
            
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                 And the number of different molecules that can do that
             
            
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                 that are available without a prescription,
             
            
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                 at least in the US, is pretty vast.
             
            
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                 The most common of those molecules is actually nicotine.
             
            
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                 Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors are abundant
             
            
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                 throughout the body and brain.
             
            
                link |
                
                 They're in various brain circuits.
             
            
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                 They are on muscle and yes, smoking nicotine
             
            
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                 either by vaping or cigarette
             
            
                link |
                
                 will activate those nicotinic receptors.
             
            
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                 But of course, smoking is a terrible thing.
             
            
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                 It will also activate things like lung cancer.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So I definitely don't recommend that.
             
            
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                 It also activates addiction because of the ways
             
            
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                 that it triggers activation of the dopamine circuit.
             
            
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                 So I think that triggering activation
             
            
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                 of acetylcholine related pathways by ingesting nicotine
             
            
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                 by way of inhalants is generally a bad idea.
             
            
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                 However, some people will chew Nicorette
             
            
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                 or other nicotine type gums.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I've never done that,
             
            
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                 but I have friends who actually rely on that.
             
            
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                 These are typically former smokers
             
            
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                 that are trying not to smoke,
             
            
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                 but still want to get some of the focus enhancement
             
            
                link |
                
                 that they experienced from nicotine.
             
            
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                 Some people are very sensitive to nicotine,
             
            
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                 and this is important.
             
            
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                 Some people are very sensitive to ingested nicotine.
             
            
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                 So nowadays there are nicotine dipped toothpicks.
             
            
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                 There of course is nicotine gum
             
            
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                 and other sources of nicotine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Some people can take that and feel fine.
             
            
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                 Some people take it and feel absolutely terrible.
             
            
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                 I confess I've never actually tried nicotine
             
            
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                 in any of those forms.
             
            
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                 So I don't know how they work for me,
             
            
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                 but some people do use them as cognitive enhancers.
             
            
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                 In fact, I know one Nobel prize winning neuroscientist
             
            
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                 who's quite well known in our field
             
            
                link |
                
                 for chewing Nicorette all day long.
             
            
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                 He insists that it really helps him with his focus
             
            
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                 and he is exceedingly smart and productive.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Although I'm sure there are other reasons for that.
             
            
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                 Supplements that I have used and do use
             
            
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                 for increasing acetylcholine
             
            
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                 are things like Alpha-GPC or Hooperzine.
             
            
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                 Alpha-GPC is in the choline pathway
             
            
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                 such that more acetylcholine is synthesized
             
            
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                 after you ingest it.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That's the general logic or framework of how it works.
             
            
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                 Whereas Hooperzine is mainly in the enzymatic pathway.
             
            
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                 It tends to adjust how much acetylcholine is broken down
             
            
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                 and lead to net increases in acetylcholine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I will often take 300 milligrams of Alpha-GPC
             
            
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                 prior to workouts or prior to cognitive work bouts.
             
            
                link |
                
                 But when I say often, I tend to do this anywhere
             
            
                link |
                
                 from three to four times a week, typically not every day.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Although there are people,
             
            
                link |
                
                 including people who are trying to offset
             
            
                link |
                
                 age-related cognitive decline
             
            
                link |
                
                 that will take 300 milligrams of Alpha-GPC
             
            
                link |
                
                 three times a day every day,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which closely mimics some of the studies
             
            
                link |
                
                 that have been done on humans
             
            
                link |
                
                 looking at offsetting age-related cognitive decline
             
            
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                 using things like Alpha-GPC.
             
            
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                 I should point out that there have been a few studies,
             
            
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                 a few, not many, but these studies emphasize
             
            
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                 that people who take a lot of Alpha-GPC chronically
             
            
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                 over time may be at increased risk for stroke.
             
            
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                 I think the data are still out on that
             
            
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                 and we need more data.
             
            
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                 But for me, in terms of thinking about
             
            
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                 the risk benefit profiles,
             
            
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                 taking 300 milligrams of Alpha-GPC
             
            
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                 most certainly does increase my ability of focus.
             
            
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                 I've noticed that I tend to take it alongside caffeine
             
            
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                 and phenylethylamine, so I take that in combination
             
            
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                 either before workouts or work bouts,
             
            
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                 really sharpens my focus.
             
            
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                 And again, I'm doing that three, maybe four times per week.
             
            
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                 And I'm careful to do that in the early part of the day
             
            
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                 so that it does not disrupt my sleep.
             
            
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                 Although I have taken Alpha-GPC in the second half
             
            
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                 of the day and I had no trouble sleeping at all.
             
            
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                 I don't know what the exact half-life is
             
            
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                 of the given form that's typically in supplementation.
             
            
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                 It's actually hard to get that information,
             
            
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                 but typically the focus effects wear off
             
            
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                 after about two, maybe four hours maximum.
             
            
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                 Now, one thing that I don't think
             
            
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                 has ever been discussed before,
             
            
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                 certainly not on this podcast,
             
            
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                 is that if you take Alpha-GPC even semi-regularly,
             
            
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                 you may notice that a particular feature
             
            
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                 of your blood work will increase,
             
            
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                 and that's TMAO, which is sometimes associated
             
            
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                 with increased cardiovascular risk.
             
            
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                 This may, again, may relate to some of the potential risk
             
            
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                 of very high levels of Alpha-GPC ingestion over many years,
             
            
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                 increasing stroke risk.
             
            
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                 Again, those studies looked at people
             
            
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                 who've been taking it for up to a decade.
             
            
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                 But in any case, one way to prevent the increase in TMAO
             
            
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                 if you're taking Alpha-GPC at all
             
            
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                 is to take 600 milligrams of garlic
             
            
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                 because it contains something called allicin.
             
            
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                 This was a trick that was handed off to me
             
            
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                 by Dr. Kyle Gillette,
             
            
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                 who again was a guest on this podcast some time ago
             
            
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                 talking about hormones and hormone health.
             
            
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                 Turns out that ingestion of 600 milligrams of allicin
             
            
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                 alongside or even just same day as Alpha-GPC
             
            
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                 can really clamp those TMAO levels
             
            
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                 that would otherwise increase if you're taking Alpha-GPC.
             
            
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                 And indeed, I've done the blood work
             
            
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                 and that turns out to be the case.
             
            
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                 I saw a spike in TMAO.
             
            
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                 I started taking 600 milligrams of garlic
             
            
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                 and those TMAO levels came down.
             
            
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                 And last as it relates to acetylcholine,
             
            
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                 but certainly not least,
             
            
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                 just as acetylcholine can increase focus,
             
            
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                 focus can increase acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 I talked a lot about this in the episode on focus,
             
            
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                 but there are behavioral tools
             
            
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                 that you can use to enhance focus.
             
            
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                 Things like staring at a particular visual target
             
            
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                 at the same distance at which
             
            
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                 you're going to perform some work
             
            
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                 and doing that for 30 to 60 seconds,
             
            
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                 narrowing in a very deliberate way your visual field,
             
            
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                 and then moving into a focused work bout.
             
            
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                 That behavioral practice of narrowing your visual aperture
             
            
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                 will increase the amount of acetylcholine transmission
             
            
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                 in particular neural circuits
             
            
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                 that will then make it easier to focus.
             
            
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                 How do we know that?
             
            
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                 Well, I covered in that episode
             
            
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                 some of the peer-reviewed studies
             
            
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                 that relate to protocols that are now actively being deployed
             
            
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                 in schools in China and elsewhere,
             
            
                link |
                
                 where kids are doing deliberate visual focus exercises
             
            
                link |
                
                 in order to increase their mental focus.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And while they're not doing micro dialysis
             
            
                link |
                
                 or brain imaging on those kids in real time,
             
            
                link |
                
                 the cognitive effects and indeed the performance effects
             
            
                link |
                
                 in terms of academic ability and output
             
            
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                 are pretty impressive.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So acetylcholine increases focus.
             
            
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                 We talked about some dietary
             
            
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                 and some supplementation based ways
             
            
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                 to improve acetylcholine,
             
            
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                 or I should say increase acetylcholine.
             
            
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                 And that does in fact lead to increases
             
            
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                 in one's ability to focus.
             
            
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                 This is why a lot of the prescription drugs
             
            
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                 for the treatment of Alzheimer's,
             
            
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                 age-related cognitive decline,
             
            
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                 and indeed even some of the drugs
             
            
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                 that tap into treatments for ADHD
             
            
                link |
                
                 also involve the acetylcholine system.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So there's nothing surprising or heretical here,
             
            
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                 but it is important to point out
             
            
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                 that your behavioral ability to focus
             
            
                link |
                
                 is also related to your ability to access
             
            
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                 and deploy acetylcholine.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So never do we want purely pharmacologic treatments
             
            
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                 to be the only way that people are increasing
             
            
                link |
                
                 a given neuromodulator.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I always say behaviors first,
             
            
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                 then nutrition, then supplementation.
             
            
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                 And then if there's a need, certainly a clinical need,
             
            
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                 then prescription drugs, et cetera,
             
            
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                 of course administered through a physician.
             
            
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                 So let's discuss serotonin.
             
            
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                 Serotonin, as I mentioned earlier,
             
            
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                 is associated with brain and body states
             
            
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                 of wellbeing, of comfort, of satiety.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And therefore it should come as no surprise
             
            
                link |
                
                 that a lot of the prescription drug treatments
             
            
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                 for things like depression
             
            
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                 involve increasing levels of serotonin
             
            
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                 in the brain and body.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That said, anytime you talk about prescription drugs
             
            
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                 for serotonin, we also want to acknowledge
             
            
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                 that there are often side effects
             
            
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                 associated with increasing serotonin.
             
            
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                 In particular, if serotonin levels go too high,
             
            
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                 that is if the dosages of those treatments go too high,
             
            
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                 people will, for instance,
             
            
                link |
                
                 feel reduced appetite, reduced libido,
             
            
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                 increased lethargy, et cetera.
             
            
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                 And there's a so-called serotonergic syndrome.
             
            
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                 All of that can and should be considered
             
            
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                 with a well-trained physician.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So because there are prescription drugs
             
            
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                 controlling the dosage, deciding what dosage to take,
             
            
                link |
                
                 deciding which SSRI to take,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and whether or not to come off those drugs,
             
            
                link |
                
                 how to come off those drugs.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Again, all of that should be handled
             
            
                link |
                
                 with a licensed physician.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That said, there are behavioral tools,
             
            
                link |
                
                 nutritional tools, and supplementation tools
             
            
                link |
                
                 that can tap into the serotonin system,
             
            
                link |
                
                 not to the same degree in potency,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but nonetheless in ways that can still impact
             
            
                link |
                
                 our feelings of wellbeing in positive ways.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So let's focus first on the behavioral tools.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And some of these might make people chuckle a little bit,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but I want to point out that a lot of these tools
             
            
            
                link |
                
                 In fact, they are power tools for modulating serotonin.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And we know that based on human neuroimaging studies,
             
            
                link |
                
                 human and animal micro dialysis studies,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and other studies that really have evaluated
             
            
                link |
                
                 circulating levels of serotonin
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the particular brain circuits that release serotonin
             
            
                link |
                
                 when people do certain things.
             
            
                link |
                
                 What sorts of things?
             
            
                link |
                
                 Well, for instance, physical contact,
             
            
                link |
                
                 in particular with loved ones,
             
            
                link |
                
                 this can be romantic love, this can be children,
             
            
                link |
                
                 so your own children, or your spouse,
             
            
                link |
                
                 even if it's not sexual contact,
             
            
                link |
                
                 friend to friend contact, even friend to animal contact.
             
            
                link |
                
                 As a former dog owner, I hope to have another dog soon
             
            
                link |
                
                 because unfortunately Costello passed away,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but there is something really comforting and wonderful
             
            
                link |
                
                 about petting your dog.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And certainly given that many of the studies on serotonin
             
            
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                 and these other neuromodulators were done on animal models,
             
            
                link |
                
                 we also know that serotonin is being evoked in the dog
             
            
                link |
                
                 and of course in the child
             
            
                link |
                
                 and in the significant other, et cetera.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So things like holding hands, believe it or not,
             
            
                link |
                
                 hugs, cuddling, et cetera,
             
            
                link |
                
                 can increase serotonin transmission
             
            
                link |
                
                 and they make people feel good.
             
            
                link |
                
                 This shouldn't really come as a surprise.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There's also gratitude.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And we did an entire episode about gratitude.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There's a lot of misunderstanding about gratitude.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Oftentimes when people hear gratitude, they think,
             
            
                link |
                
                 oh, gratitude, this is just being thankful for what you have
             
            
                link |
                
                 and it's kind of a weak sauce effect,
             
            
                link |
                
                 meaning it's kind of like maybe a little serotonin goes up
             
            
                link |
                
                 or maybe there's a little bit of increased feelings
             
            
            
                link |
                
                 Nothing could be further from the truth.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It turns out, first of all,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that receiving, not giving gratitude,
             
            
                link |
                
                 is what has the most potent effects on increasing serotonin
             
            
                link |
                
                 and activity of the brain circuits that involve serotonin
             
            
                link |
                
                 and that lead to increases in feelings of wellbeing.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So this is interesting.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Receiving much more than giving gratitude
             
            
                link |
                
                 is what activates those serotonergic pathways.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So the takeaway from that is both give and receive gratitude
             
            
                link |
                
                 and of course do it in an authentic way.
             
            
                link |
                
                 The other thing about gratitude
             
            
                link |
                
                 that's somewhat counterintuitive
             
            
                link |
                
                 is that observing others giving and receiving gratitude
             
            
                link |
                
                 is immensely powerful for evoking serotonin
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the activity of serotonergic circuits in you,
             
            
            
                link |
                
                 So receiving and observing gratitude
             
            
                link |
                
                 turns out to be the most potent way
             
            
                link |
                
                 to increase serotonin in the brain and body.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And these, again, are dramatic effects
             
            
                link |
                
                 that are quite long lasting and not the sorts of effects
             
            
                link |
                
                 that are going to lead to side effects,
             
            
                link |
                
                 at least there's no reason to think they would.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, what about nutritional approaches
             
            
                link |
                
                 to increasing serotonin?
             
            
                link |
                
                 Well, just as we have tyrosine as an amino acid precursor
             
            
                link |
                
                 upstream of dopamine synthesis,
             
            
                link |
                
                 we have the amino acid tryptophan,
             
            
                link |
                
                 which is upstream of serotonin synthesis.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And one simply has to go online
             
            
                link |
                
                 and put in tryptophan-containing foods
             
            
                link |
                
                 and you will discover that there are a lot of foods
             
            
                link |
                
                 that are enriched in tryptophan
             
            
                link |
                
                 that can lead to net increases in the amount of serotonin
             
            
                link |
                
                 available in the brain and body.
             
            
                link |
                
                 The most kind of famous or infamous of these
             
            
                link |
                
                 is white meat turkey, the so-called tryptophan effect,
             
            
                link |
                
                 where people get very sleepy after eating white meat turkey
             
            
                link |
                
                 and it is indeed highly enriched in tryptophan.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Although typically the getting sleepy after eating turkey
             
            
                link |
                
                 is most often associated with the Thanksgiving meal
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the Thanksgiving meal, at least in the US,
             
            
                link |
                
                 is often associated with people vastly overeating.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And so I do want to point out
             
            
                link |
                
                 that if you fill your gut with food,
             
            
                link |
                
                 no matter what that food is,
             
            
                link |
                
                 there's going to be a diversion of blood to your gut
             
            
                link |
                
                 that's going to make you feel sleepy
             
            
                link |
                
                 because there's a diversion of blood away from other tissues.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So if you eat a lot, you're going to get sleepy, period,
             
            
                link |
                
                 whether or not you eat turkey or some other substance.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Nonetheless, there are a number of foods
             
            
                link |
                
                 that contain a lot of tryptophan
             
            
                link |
                
                 and that some people will leverage
             
            
                link |
                
                 in order to try and increase
             
            
                link |
                
                 the total amount of circulating serotonin available to them
             
            
                link |
                
                 in order to have a modest increase
             
            
                link |
                
                 in overall mood and wellbeing.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So what are some of these foods?
             
            
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                 These are things like milk, in particular, whole milk,
             
            
            
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                 I know a number of people choose not to drink milk
             
            
                link |
                
                 because they're lactose intolerant.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I'm raising my hand because I'm one such person.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Although when I was a kid, I did enjoy milk.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Canned tuna, turkey, as we mentioned before,
             
            
                link |
                
                 high in tryptophan, oats.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I am a consumer of oatmeal, so that resonates with me.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Cheese, and here I read,
             
            
                link |
                
                 although not as high in tryptophan
             
            
                link |
                
                 as meat and other dairy sources,
             
            
                link |
                
                 certain cheeses like cheddar cheeses
             
            
                link |
                
                 can be rich in tryptophan.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Certain nuts and seeds, certain breads.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Chocolate, I know a number of people
             
            
                link |
                
                 will be relieved to hear that.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I know chocolate lovers are always looking
             
            
                link |
                
                 for an excuse to eat chocolate.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I confess I've never really liked chocolate,
             
            
                link |
                
                 except, dare I say, I like the smooth 100% chocolates.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I know many people gag when they hear 100%.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I actually really liked them.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And some fruits can be highly enriched in tryptophan.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Things like bananas and apples and things of that sort,
             
            
                link |
                
                 although not nearly to the degree of things
             
            
                link |
                
                 like turkey, canned tuna, and milk.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I'm sure there are other excellent sources of tryptophan
             
            
                link |
                
                 from the diet, including vegan sources.
             
            
                link |
                
                 So please peruse the internet to try and find the sources
             
            
                link |
                
                 that are compatible with your nutritional program,
             
            
                link |
                
                 if indeed your goal is to increase tryptophan.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, there are supplements that can increase tryptophan
             
            
                link |
                
                 and can do so quite potently.
             
            
                link |
                
                 One of the ones that has received increasing attention
             
            
                link |
                
                 as of lately is Sissus quadranglearis, complicated name.
             
            
                link |
                
                 When taken in dosages of about 300 to 600 milligrams
             
            
                link |
                
                 can pretty dramatically increase serotonin levels.
             
            
                link |
                
                 In fact, anywhere from 30% to 39% increases
             
            
                link |
                
                 in circulating serotonin, that's a big increase.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And I can provide a link to that study.
             
            
                link |
                
                 The study was focused not so much on serotonin,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but was focused mainly on treatment of obesity
             
            
                link |
                
                 and appetite and weight loss.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And it should come as no surprise that serotonin,
             
            
                link |
                
                 if increased, might lead to decreases in appetite.
             
            
                link |
                
                 A cautionary note, Sissus quadranglearis
             
            
                link |
                
                 may need to be cycled.
             
            
                link |
                
                 How quickly to cycle it,
             
            
                link |
                
                 meaning do you do two weeks on, two weeks off,
             
            
                link |
                
                 whether or not you need to do more rapid cycling,
             
            
                link |
                
                 like two days on, two days off, is a matter of debate.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There are not a lot of data on this just yet.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There are a lot of opinions about this on the internet,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but again, not a lot of quality peer review data.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Nonetheless, Sissus quadranglearis has been shown
             
            
                link |
                
                 to importantly increase serotonin in humans.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And for people that are seeking to increase serotonin,
             
            
                link |
                
                 maybe in particular, for sake of appetite and weight control,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that might be a useful compound.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I know many people also take 5-HTP,
             
            
                link |
                
                 one of the precursors to serotonin,
             
            
                link |
                
                 in dosages of anywhere from 300 to 500 milligrams.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Typically, people are doing this in anticipation of sleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 meaning in the final hour of wakefulness
             
            
                link |
                
                 before going to sleep.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I myself have tried 5-HTP prior to sleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and all I can tell you is that it led to very deep sleep
             
            
                link |
                
                 for about one to three hours,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and then I woke up and I could not fall back asleep.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I ran that experiment twice
             
            
                link |
                
                 before I decided to abandon 5-HTP as a sleep aid,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and that's why I've never put it into our sleep kit,
             
            
                link |
                
                 or at least my sleep kit.
             
            
                link |
                
                 And when I refer to the sleep kit,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that's something you can find at HubermanLab.com.
             
            
                link |
                
                 This is a zero-cost resource
             
            
                link |
                
                 where you can see behavioral tools
             
            
                link |
                
                 and also supplementation tools
             
            
                link |
                
                 that can improve the transition time into
             
            
                link |
                
                 and the depth of sleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and none of those rely on 5-HTP supplementation.
             
            
                link |
                
                 That said, I know a number of people
             
            
                link |
                
                 use 5-HTP supplementation outside of sleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 or I should say during the daytime,
             
            
                link |
                
                 to try and increase serotonin,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and it will indeed increase circulating serotonin.
             
            
                link |
                
                 But again, people vary in their sensitivity
             
            
                link |
                
                 to these sorts of things.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Some people might find, for instance,
             
            
                link |
                
                 that 300 milligrams of 5-HTP is just far too much.
             
            
                link |
                
                 It blunts their appetite, might even reduce libido.
             
            
                link |
                
                 There aren't a lot of very well-controlled studies
             
            
            
                link |
                
                 and so it has to be figured out on an individual basis
             
            
                link |
                
                 if you decide to approach it at all.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Now, one molecule that I've found
             
            
                link |
                
                 to be particularly interesting and useful,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and this is one that I haven't talked about yet
             
            
                link |
                
                 on this podcast, is inositol, in particular, myoinositol.
             
            
                link |
                
                 Myoinositol can have the effect of increasing serotonin
             
            
                link |
                
                 and other neurochemicals,
             
            
                link |
                
                 but primarily, at least in terms of the neuromodulators
             
            
                link |
                
                 discussed today, serotonin.
             
            
                link |
                
                 I've been taking 900 milligrams of myoinositol
             
            
                link |
                
                 every third night or so
             
            
                link |
                
                 as a test of its ability to improve sleep,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and I have to say, the depth and quality of sleep
             
            
                link |
                
                 that I've been obtaining on myoinositol
             
            
                link |
                
                 is pretty remarkable.
             
            
                link |
                
                 In fact, I've used it alone,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and in combination with the magnesium-3-N-8
             
            
                link |
                
                 apigenin-theanine sleep kit that I've talked about,
             
            
                link |
                
                 and that's included in that, again, zero-cost kit
             
            
                link |
                
                 that's available as a PDF on our website.
             
            
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                 So myoinositol is known to increase circulating levels
             
            
            
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                 It has been explored extensively in both animal models
             
            
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                 and in humans for its daytime use for treating anxiety.
             
            
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                 It does seem to reduce anxiety,
             
            
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                 and for all sorts of things.
             
            
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                 It's been explored for bipolar disorder.
             
            
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                 We're going to do an episode
             
            
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                 about bipolar disorder coming up.
             
            
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                 It's been explored for the treatment of migraine.
             
            
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                 It's been explored for ADHD.
             
            
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                 It's been explored for a huge number
             
            
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                 of different conditions of brain and body.
             
            
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                 Again, I've been using the 900 milligrams of myoinositol
             
            
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                 in the 30 to 60 minutes before sleep to improve my sleep,
             
            
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                 and it has been doing that very dramatically,
             
            
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                 especially when I take it alongside the rest
             
            
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                 of those sleep kit supplements.
             
            
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                 A quick note about myoinositol
             
            
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                 for sake of increasing serotonin.
             
            
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                 If you look at the human studies on myoinositol
             
            
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                 that are out there,
             
            
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                 and in particular focus on the human studies,
             
            
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                 what you'll find is that the dosages that are often used
             
            
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                 are tremendously high.
             
            
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                 It's like five grams, eight grams,
             
            
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                 18 grams of myoinositol taken throughout the day.
             
            
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                 I don't know how people stomach that,
             
            
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                 and in fact, many people drop out of those studies
             
            
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                 because of gastric discomfort,
             
            
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                 and yet I also wonder how people tolerate it
             
            
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                 because it has somewhat of a sedative effect,
             
            
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                 and it's kind of anti-anxiety effect,
             
            
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                 and I can't even imagine,
             
            
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                 given my experience with 900 milligrams,
             
            
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                 what one would experience taking multiple
             
            
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                 or many more grams per day.
             
            
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                 So I certainly am not encouraging that,
             
            
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                 and the only reason I mentioned myoinositol
             
            
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                 is that it has a known effect of increasing serotonin.
             
            
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                 At least in my experience,
             
            
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                 it does not lead to this falling deeply asleep
             
            
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                 and waking back up.
             
            
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                 Actually to the contrary,
             
            
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                 if I wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom
             
            
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                 or I wake up in the middle of the night
             
            
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                 for whatever other reason,
             
            
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                 I find it far easier to fall back asleep
             
            
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                 if I've taken 900 milligrams inositol prior to sleep.
             
            
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                 So for me, it's proving to be a quite useful compound.
             
            
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                 I'm not aware of having any serotonergic deficiency overall.
             
            
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                 I don't consider myself depressed.
             
            
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                 And of course, I should mention that no supplement,
             
            
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                 either added or withdrawn from your protocol,
             
            
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                 should ever be used as a direct replacement
             
            
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                 for prescription drug treatments
             
            
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                 that your physician has given you.
             
            
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                 You should always talk to your physician
             
            
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                 anytime you remove or add something to your drug protocol
             
            
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                 or prescription protocol, of course.
             
            
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                 So we've got behavioral protocols that,
             
            
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                 as silly as it feels to say,
             
            
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                 have been shown to potently increase serotonin,
             
            
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                 things like physical contact, cuddling, holding hands
             
            
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                 with people that you love, of course, right?
             
            
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                 I think if there were people that you despised,
             
            
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                 it would have the opposite effect for obvious reasons,
             
            
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                 but also receiving gratitude and observing gratitude,
             
            
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                 very potent increases in serotonin.
             
            
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                 And things like cystis quadrangularis,
             
            
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                 things like 5-HTP may have their uses, right?
             
            
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                 They're very potent at increasing serotonin,
             
            
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                 but they do seem to have the need to cycle them
             
            
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                 and they are nuanced.
             
            
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                 Some people respond well to them.
             
            
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                 Others, like myself, don't.
             
            
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                 And of course, always be on the lookout for dramatic
             
            
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                 or even subtle decreases in appetite or libido
             
            
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                 or things that you might not want
             
            
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                 if you are going to be tinkering
             
            
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                 with your serotonergic levels and pathways.
             
            
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                 And then myoinositol actually is proving
             
            
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                 to be quite useful to me.
             
            
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                 And whether or not that's because of its effects
             
            
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                 on serotonin or through some of its other effects
             
            
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                 on maybe reducing anxiety,
             
            
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                 which certainly I experience
             
            
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                 if I wake up in the middle of the night,
             
            
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                 I don't like waking up in the middle of the night,
             
            
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                 but on myoinositol, I sort of seem to not really care
             
            
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                 that I woke up and I fall right back asleep.
             
            
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                 So the direct source of the positive effects
             
            
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                 that I'm getting aren't clear,
             
            
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                 but nonetheless, I thought I'd pass it along
             
            
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                 as a useful tool because it is out there
             
            
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                 and it is available over the counter
             
            
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                 and provided you're taking the appropriate safety steps
             
            
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                 in considering whether or not to use it or not,
             
            
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                 I think it might be a useful tool.
             
            
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                 And of course, as with all the other neuromodulators
             
            
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                 we discussed, you have both a baseline of serotonin
             
            
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                 and the ability to give or provide yourself peaks
             
            
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                 of serotonin through these various protocols.
             
            
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                 The dietary interventions of the sort that I mentioned,
             
            
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                 meaning eating foods that are enriched in tryptophan,
             
            
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                 those are mainly going to adjust
             
            
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                 your baseline levels of tryptophan.
             
            
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                 For instance, if you really want to be sleepy,
             
            
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                 sure, you could eat some white meat turkey
             
            
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                 in hopes that that tryptophan will convert to serotonin
             
            
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                 and make you sleepy, et cetera.
             
            
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                 But in general, those are going to be
             
            
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                 pretty long lasting effects,
             
            
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                 especially given the fact
             
            
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                 that not all of the tryptophan you will ingest
             
            
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                 is going to be converted into serotonin in your brain.
             
            
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                 It's going to have other effects
             
            
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                 on other tissues and organs of your body.
             
            
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                 Nonetheless, if you want to increase serotonin,
             
            
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                 providing the appropriate baseline context
             
            
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                 is going to be useful.
             
            
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                 And again, this is a general theme
             
            
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                 of all four of these neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 dopamine, epinephrine, acetylcholine, and serotonin.
             
            
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                 You want to make sure
             
            
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                 that you have sufficient baseline levels of those things
             
            
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                 through things like diet, regular behaviors,
             
            
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                 and then you have the opportunity to use supplementation,
             
            
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                 and if it's appropriate for you,
             
            
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                 prescription drugs and certain behavioral protocols
             
            
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                 to try and get these potent increases,
             
            
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                 these acute increases in whichever the neuromodulators
             
            
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                 you happen to want to leverage for your particular goals.
             
            
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                 So that brings us to the end
             
            
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                 of at least this exploration of the neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 dopamine, epinephrine, acetylcholine, and serotonin.
             
            
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                 Some of you who are regular listeners of this podcast
             
            
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                 might be saying, well, we've heard all this before, right?
             
            
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                 You had an episode on dopamine.
             
            
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                 You had an episode on anxiety.
             
            
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                 You had an episode on sleep.
             
            
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                 And indeed that's true.
             
            
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                 But what I've tried to provide today is a framework
             
            
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                 that cuts through all those episodes
             
            
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                 and at the same time builds out a new
             
            
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                 and what I believe to be a really important theme
             
            
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                 and principle, which is that whether or not
             
            
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                 you're using nutritional tools or supplementation
             
            
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                 or prescription drugs or any other sort of protocol
             
            
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                 to try and create a desired effect of focus or energy,
             
            
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                 motivation, relaxation,
             
            
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                 you're playing with the same neurochemical ingredients,
             
            
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                 just as in the realm of nutrition, you have macronutrients,
             
            
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                 you have proteins, carbohydrates, and fats
             
            
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                 that can be adjusted in different ratios
             
            
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                 and arranged at different times
             
            
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                 in order to achieve certain desired effects.
             
            
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                 Well, when it comes to your neurochemistry
             
            
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                 and your ability to perform mentally,
             
            
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                 to perform physically, and your overall wellbeing,
             
            
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                 you are dealing with a small handful
             
            
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                 of especially potent molecules.
             
            
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                 And I acknowledge that there are many neuromodulators,
             
            
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                 there are indeed many neurotransmitters,
             
            
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                 glutamine, glycine, GABA, et cetera.
             
            
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                 But today we focused on the main four,
             
            
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                 meaning the most potent and most widespread neuromodulators
             
            
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                 in the brain and body that give you access
             
            
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                 to particular brain states and body states
             
            
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                 of the sort that most people desire.
             
            
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                 So what I'm hoping is that rather than decide
             
            
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                 that any one tool is the most useful
             
            
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                 or that any one neurochemical is most useful
             
            
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                 for that matter, that the information
             
            
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                 that I've provided today allows you a kit of versatile tools
             
            
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                 that allows you to figure out what levels of dopamine
             
            
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                 and augmentation of dopamine are appropriate
             
            
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                 and necessary for you.
             
            
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                 What levels of acetylcholine
             
            
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                 and tools for manipulating acetylcholine
             
            
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                 are going to be most useful for you,
             
            
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                 and so on and so forth.
             
            
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                 Because at least at this stage in time,
             
            
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                 that is June, 2022, there is no simple at-home test.
             
            
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                 In fact, there is no simple laboratory test
             
            
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                 that allows us to know whether or not
             
            
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                 our dopamine levels are high
             
            
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                 and our serotonin levels are low.
             
            
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                 We can look at somebody and their behavior.
             
            
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                 We can look at ourselves and our own mood and behavior,
             
            
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                 and we can infer what those levels may or may not be.
             
            
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                 But unfortunately, we don't have a really good test
             
            
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                 of dopamine levels or serotonin levels
             
            
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                 that would allow us to say, okay, this person
             
            
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                 or I need to increase dopamine twofold
             
            
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                 in order to achieve the kind of motivation that we want.
             
            
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                 Unfortunately, that doesn't exist.
             
            
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                 Rather, we are confronted with a situation
             
            
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                 where we understand generally
             
            
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                 what these different neuromodulators do,
             
            
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                 the different mental states and physical states
             
            
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                 that they tend to put us into, and we reviewed those.
             
            
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                 And we know that there are really potent tools
             
            
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                 to adjust those neuromodulators, if not alone,
             
            
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                 but in certain combinations.
             
            
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                 That is, ingestion of caffeine will tap into
             
            
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                 and support dopamine and epinephrine.
             
            
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                 Increasing dopamine and epinephrine
             
            
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                 alongside increasing acetylcholine
             
            
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                 will allow us to access certain brain states.
             
            
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                 That is focused, alert, energized brain states,
             
            
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                 great for learning and plasticity of all kinds,
             
            
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                 whereas augmenting serotonin is going to put us
             
            
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                 into a more relaxed state and so on and so forth.
             
            
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                 And I'd like you to keep in mind
             
            
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                 that there is no negotiating the fact
             
            
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                 that we all have different phases of our 24-hour cycle
             
            
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                 during which those very same neuromodulators
             
            
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                 tend to be naturally higher or naturally lower.
             
            
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                 And I reviewed that at the beginning of the episode.
             
            
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                 So my wish for you is that you will take this information,
             
            
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                 experiment with it as you see fit for you and in a safe way,
             
            
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                 and as you go forward to really try and gain intuition
             
            
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                 and understanding as to not just how these protocols work,
             
            
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                 but how any protocol that you might encounter,
             
            
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                 supplement-based, drug-based, behavioral-based,
             
            
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                 how those might tap into
             
            
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                 these different major neuromodulator systems,
             
            
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                 and from that, to be able to better predict and evaluate
             
            
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                 whether or not they're going to be useful to you,
             
            
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                 detrimental to you,
             
            
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                 or whether or not they should be used in combinations
             
            
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